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#Post#: 118840--------------------------------------------------
Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: Quinky
Date: January 21, 2024, 12:35 pm
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Maybe he should come back to Quins, if a centralised contract is
in the offing?
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: poorfour
Date: January 21, 2024, 12:51 pm
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
>
> I've already pointed it out.
>
> X doesn't need to make a decision on Z until T, but accepts Z
at T minus lots. Suggesting that Z wasn't really what X wanted,
and Y was more important.
>
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That’s where I think your reasoning falls down. Contract
negotiations start in January when the window opens (and
sometimes a little naughtily before that…); they’re often
announced some time after the decision is made.
Marchant would at the very least have been negotiating with
Stade before the 6 Nations squad was picked, and even then he’d
been in plenty of Eddie’s squads without ever being given a
proper run in his preferred position. We don’t know when he knew
that he was becoming Borthwick’s first choice (or how long that
was for). So your “T minus lots” isn’t really justified. At the
most, it was “T minus a few uncertain weeks,” in which it wasn’t
clear whether he’d actually get a chance with England or how
long Stade would be prepared to wait.
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: January 21, 2024, 1:10 pm
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Eddie was sacked the day after marchant to stade was announced.
At the beginning of December. You're telling me stade wouldn't
have waited until the usual negotiation window actually opened?
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: Quinspur
Date: January 21, 2024, 1:24 pm
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Why are we talking about this when it’s based on someone who’s
heard it from his mate’s mate’s mate by all accounts?
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: January 21, 2024, 1:35 pm
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
>
> ...
> So your “T minus lots” isn’t really justified. At the most, it
was “T minus a few uncertain weeks,”
> ...
>
--- End Quote ---
We could call them V and W.
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: January 21, 2024, 1:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Quinspur link ---
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> Why are we talking about this when it’s based on someone who’s
heard it from his mate’s mate’s mate by all accounts?
>
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'I can't reveal. My source' 😂😂
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: FishQuin
Date: January 21, 2024, 2:22 pm
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
>
> I've already pointed it out.
>
> X doesn't need to make a decision on Z until T, but accepts Z
at T minus lots. Suggesting that Z wasn't really what X wanted,
and Y was more important.
>
--- End Quote ---
We have no visibility of when T was, as far as I’m aware, so we
don’t know that the decision was made before T.
That also doesn’t make my logic incorrect. It simply adds a new
premise. As I said, my premises may be wrong. The logic isn’t.
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: January 21, 2024, 3:09 pm
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OK. But this isn't an experiment.
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: FishQuin
Date: January 21, 2024, 3:16 pm
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I think you’re confusing a premise with a hypothesis?
This is a debate.
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Re: Marchant to Sarries
DIR By: Quinky
Date: January 21, 2024, 5:16 pm
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--- Quote from: FishQuin link ---
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> The decision was made before T.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
But after lunch.
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