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       #Post#: 117159--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team vs Toulouse
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 19, 2023, 11:51 am
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       > For info - there were no citings from the game
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  HTML https://www.epcrugby.com/european-professional-club-rugby/content/disciplinary-hearings-rd-2
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       Luckily Joe didn't flick water at anyone.
       #Post#: 117168--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team vs Toulouse
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: December 19, 2023, 1:54 pm
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       Didn't think Ramos would be cited. It's a cheap shot but only
       yellow.
       Amazed the high tackle didn't get upgraded though. They really
       are not at all concerned with removing high tackles from the
       game. It's not going to help their case in the ongoing law suit
       when the claimants can point to ample evidence that head contact
       is still not being punished properly.
       #Post#: 117171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team vs Toulouse
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 19, 2023, 2:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
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       > Didn't think Ramos would be cited. It's a cheap shot but only
       yellow.
       >
       > Amazed the high tackle didn't get upgraded though. They really
       are not at all concerned with removing high tackles from the
       game. It's not going to help their case in the ongoing law suit
       when the claimants can point to ample evidence that head contact
       is still not being punished properly.
       >
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       The lawsuit isn't about the correct punishment of head contact.
       #Post#: 117181--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team vs Toulouse
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: December 19, 2023, 5:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > The lawsuit isn't about the correct punishment of head
       contact.
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       I realise that, and not necessarily suing the same body. But not
       good optics, as they say
       #Post#: 117190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team vs Toulouse
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 20, 2023, 4:38 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
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       > I realise that, and not necessarily suing the same body. But
       not good optics, as they say
       >
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       Brian Moore on the concussion legal case
  HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/12/04/rugby-concussion-brain-injury-legal-case-toxic-debate/<br
       />is quite interesting. Sorry if you've read it or it's been
       posted here before
       #Post#: 117198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team vs Toulouse
   DIR By: gregory p
       Date: December 20, 2023, 6:51 am
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       Thanks for the link an that's  the best commentary I've read on
       the litigation.
       My guess - and I have no empirical basis for this view, like
       much of what's out there in cyberspace - is that those claimants
       who can show that training seriously over exposed them to damage
       are likely to get something out of this; whereas, those whose
       damage is referable to game time damage are less likely to
       succeed.
       
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       Re: Team vs Toulouse
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: December 21, 2023, 2:59 am
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       There are other factors that can directly contribute to cte or
       dementia. Alcohol, stress, sleep disorders, immune system
       issues, etc
       As Brian Moore says, the case needs to be heard and proven first
       before we can all move on.
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