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       #Post#: 116317--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: December 1, 2023, 10:46 am
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       Beckham was burned in effigy, wasn't he?
       Putting aside the desire from some quarters to make everything
       Farrell achieves or experiences the greatest ever, it is fair to
       say he has been a divisive figure since he broke into the
       England team. I remember spending many hours defending his early
       performances on another forum.
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       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: December 1, 2023, 11:01 am
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       Ah yes.
       Farrell 0m
       Barritt 0m
       Those were the days.
       #Post#: 116321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 1, 2023, 11:04 am
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       Chris Robshaw supports Owen Farrell
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       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: December 1, 2023, 11:07 am
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       Blimey.
       #Post#: 116325--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: QuincyJones
       Date: December 1, 2023, 11:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       >
       >
       > I'll indulge you. What is this incredible insight you have
       witnessed, seen and heard about the life of Owen Farrell that
       supports your opinion over somebody like Mark McCall perhaps?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What 'incredible insight'? I haven't claimed to have access to
       anything that you or anyone else doesn't.
       I've formed my opinion based on how I've seen Farrell play and
       respond to negative/positive things in the past since he broke
       onto the scene in what, 2007/2008? In my opinion he's got a
       fantastic mindset that would be an asset to any player but to
       me, he's never, ever seemed the slightest bit bothered by the
       peripheral stuff - good or bad. He's not particularly active on
       social media unless it's posting a paid advert so I can't
       imagine he goes seeking out opinion pieces, criticism or praise.
       I can totally believe his family might though and perhaps
       they're affected more than he is.
       I'm still of the opinion there's something more at play.
       #Post#: 116327--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: December 1, 2023, 11:34 am
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       >
       >
       > I'll indulge you. What is this incredible insight you have
       witnessed, seen and heard about the life of Owen Farrell that
       supports your opinion over somebody like Mark McCall perhaps?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe you could give your detailed knowledge/opinion so that we
       can all adopt it unquestioningly, thus making some amends for
       daring to have apparently unacceptable views.
       #Post#: 116329--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: December 1, 2023, 12:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > Maybe you could give your detailed knowledge/opinion so that
       we can all adopt it unquestioningly, thus making some amends for
       daring to have apparently unacceptable views.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       When a rugby player with over 100 caps for his country, many of
       them as captain, and the highest England point scorer of all
       time and the second highest world rugby point scorer of all time
       withdraws from the England rugby team because he says it isn't
       good for his mental health then my first reaction isn't to think
       he's lying and there must be more to it.
       That's the place to start.
       #Post#: 116330--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 1, 2023, 1:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       >
       > When a rugby player with over 100 caps for his country, many
       of them as captain, and the highest England point scorer of all
       time and the second highest world rugby point scorer of all time
       withdraws from the England rugby team because he says it isn't
       good for his mental health then my first reaction isn't to think
       he's lying and there must be more to it.
       >
       > That's the place to start.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You don't actually realise that the posts you object to have
       gone straight over your head, do you?
       #Post#: 116331--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: December 1, 2023, 1:11 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > You don't actually realise that the posts you object to have
       gone straight over your head, do you?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       In my opinion you've meant what I've told you you've meant.
       That's how it works apparently.
       #Post#: 116332--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: December 1, 2023, 1:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       >
       >
       > In my opinion you've meant what I've told you you've meant.
       >
       > That's how it works apparently.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What's your first language?
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