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       #Post#: 116223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 30, 2023, 1:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > Owen Farrell, "I'm withdrawing from the England team to sort
       out my mental health"
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       > JG, "Nah, that's bullshit, it's something else".
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       Arsile: "I don't read or understand posts. Anyone want a fight?"
       #Post#: 116224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 30, 2023, 2:26 am
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > Owen Farrell, "I'm withdrawing from the England team to sort
       out my mental health"
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       > JG, "Nah, that's bullshit, it's something else".
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       --- End Quote ---
       The actual opposite of what I've said multiple times. Incredible
       stuff yet again, you've really surpassed yourself.
       #Post#: 116225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: November 30, 2023, 3:08 am
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       > The actual opposite of what I've said multiple times.
       Incredible stuff yet again, you've really surpassed yourself.
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       > I suspect there's more to it because I don't think the
       criticism he received earlier in the season would be enough to
       drive him to give up playing for England for his and his
       family's mental health.
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       You don't know Owen Farrell but you suspect the reason he's
       given for withdrawing from the England team isn't genuine.
       Marvelous. Such insight.
       #Post#: 116226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: November 30, 2023, 3:33 am
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       He may just have been told that he will only be a bit part
       player in 6N.
       #Post#: 116227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: November 30, 2023, 3:44 am
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > You don't know Owen Farrell but you suspect the reason he's
       given for withdrawing from the England team isn't genuine.
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       > Marvelous. Such insight.
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       You really don't understand English, do you?
       #Post#: 116230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: QNSno7
       Date: November 30, 2023, 4:13 am
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       > You don't know Owen Farrell but you suspect the reason he's
       given for withdrawing from the England team isn't genuine.
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       > Marvelous. Such insight.
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       I suppose you're best buddies with him, so apologies on
       questioning your mighty wisdom. Now if Marcus or any other Quin
       said the same as him, we all know what disgusting comments you'd
       make.
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       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 30, 2023, 5:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > You don't know Owen Farrell but you suspect the reason he's
       given for withdrawing from the England team isn't genuine.
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       > Marvelous. Such insight.
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       That's another outright lie. Please try to read what is written.
       How are you this dense? The reason given by Farrell for
       withdrawing is to concentrate on his and his family's mental
       health. That is the basis of what I'm saying. I absolutely and
       unequivocally believe that he is being honest.
       The suggestion I am making is that the idea being floated (not
       by Farrell!) that it's solely because of criticism and abuse on
       social media is probably not enough to cause him to do this. As
       I've tried to explain to you in very small words, I believe
       something more serious happened beyond regular abuse that badly
       impacted him and his family. The stories coming out from the
       refs talking about threats made to their kids schools, the
       prevalence of creepy stalkers, the willingness of people to make
       things personal for the family - that is exactly the sort of
       thing I can see happening that would really get to a guy like
       Farrell and his family, understandably.
       Given how terse the statement was, and his reluctance to discuss
       it further, we'll likely never know the specifics and that's
       fair enough, it's clearly very personal and he is competely
       entitled to his privacy. It's a sad situation and he has my full
       sympathy. Dealing with psycho obsessives is exhausting and
       unfortunately professional sport really seems to bring them out
       of the woodwork.
       #Post#: 116236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: championes
       Date: November 30, 2023, 6:04 am
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       This little discussion aside..
       Given we know Wayne Barnes received death threats, and his wife
       received rape threats and threats to harm their kids, saying
       they knew where he lives - it's not that much of a stretch to
       see why Farrell may have issues with his mental health relating
       to himself and his family's wellbeing after the world cup,
       during which he was subjected to the most appalling endless
       online abuse.
       A reminder that we sadly live in a world where people,
       particularly young people, have ended their own lives due to
       online abuse and bullying.
       So, yes, we'll never know. But no, there doesn't have to be more
       going on that what we know about - which was bad enough frankly.
       Mainly it's none of our business.
       #Post#: 116240--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: November 30, 2023, 6:09 am
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       You can also add Tom Foley to the list of refs getting death
       threats: Link
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-67546611
       #Post#: 116246--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: November 30, 2023, 6:31 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Dealing with psycho obsessives is exhausting
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       Would you be referring to Marsile by any chance? :-)
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