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       #Post#: 116207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: November 29, 2023, 4:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > I'm not being coy. As my post makes extremely clear, I have no
       idea what the reason is, and I don't expect we'll ever find out.
       If I had to guess, it's something more serious than online
       criticism, that has seriously impacted him and his family. A
       credible threat. A stalker. A meeting in public with someone who
       could've been genuinely dangerous. I have not made any hints or
       suggestions or been "coy" because it could be any number of
       things and it feels ghoulish to speculate on details.
       >
       > No doubt you will try and find another way to continue the
       petty point scoring. Talk about ungracious.
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       I accept him at his word. He's literally told you why he's
       withdrawing from test rugby but of course you know better than
       he does.
       #Post#: 116208--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: November 29, 2023, 4:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > I accept him at his word. He's literally told you why he's
       withdrawing from test rugby but of course you know better than
       he does.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Where can one view this literal explanation or is it strictly
       between Jammy and Faz?
       #Post#: 116209--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 29, 2023, 5:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > I accept him at his word. He's literally told you why he's
       withdrawing from test rugby but of course you know better than
       he does.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah? OK. I must have missed that conversation.
       This was what was said via Saracens (Farrell hasn't directly
       commented himself):
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       > Owen Farrell has decided to take a break from international
       rugby in order to prioritise his and his family's mental
       well-being.
       --- End Quote ---
       Unless the rest of the statement was written in magic ink,
       there's no information whatsoever as to the cause of the damage
       to him and his family's mental well-being. Which is what this
       discussion has been about. I am taking him at his word - I do
       believe he's doing this for his and his family's mental
       well-being. I believe something more serious than online
       criticism and abuse (a potential reason floated on the internet
       by many people making guesses) happened to him/his family in
       order for him to feel like he has to take this step for his and
       their sakes, given how much playing for England obviously means
       to him. It is extremely strange that you do not understand this
       simple logic and that you are continuing to try and find any
       angle at all to attack me.
       It seems obvious you either misread my opening post & are
       unwilling to backtrack, or are simply just here for a fight.
       Regardless, it's tiresome. You should probably stop.
       #Post#: 116210--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: November 29, 2023, 5:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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       > Where can one view this literal explanation or is it strictly
       between Jammy and Faz?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Read his statement ffs.
       #Post#: 116211--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: November 29, 2023, 5:07 pm
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       #Post#: 116212--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: KiltedQuin
       Date: November 29, 2023, 5:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       >
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       This is not OF telling us the reasons behind his decision but an
       opinion piece from a journalist discussing some known facts
       about online abuse of some rugby players and some of the
       journalists thoughts on the subject of off decision.
       #Post#: 116213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 29, 2023, 5:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       An article that has zero quotes from Farrell about his reasons?
       Here's a factual quote from it:
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       > After 112 England caps, Farrell announced on Wednesday that he
       was standing down from international duty, initially for the Six
       Nations but potentially for good, in order to prioritise his own
       mental health and that of his family.
       --- End Quote ---
       Here's all the statements from Farrell about his decision:
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       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 116215--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 29, 2023, 5:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > He gets huge criticism from online creeps. Has done for years.
       It takes its toll.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And yet you continue to do the same to us. Go figure.
       #Post#: 116217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: November 29, 2023, 6:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       >
       > Read his statement ffs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Which statement?
       #Post#: 116221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Farrell taking a break from International rugby
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: November 30, 2023, 1:05 am
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       Owen Farrell, "I'm withdrawing from the England team to sort out
       my mental health"
       JG, "Nah, that's bullshit, it's something else".
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