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       #Post#: 115956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 23, 2023, 4:22 am
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       --- Quote from: Carbonm link ---
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       > I think Burrell sums it up better than I can:
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  HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/11/20/luther-burrell-ugo-monye-racist-abuse-rugby-exeter-racism/
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       Really? I honestly have no idea what Luther is actually calling
       for here. Mixed race south Africans to get lifetime bans from
       english rugby stadia after racial abuse? OK. Little bit niche
       tho?
       How this is in any way connected to azeem rafiq I'm not sure.
       Sounds like Luther wants to drag rugby through the wringer,
       which seems a little bit of an overreaction considering the
       circumstances.
       I certainly agree with him that Rugby is too much a sport for
       the elites, but race is a massive red herring. It's certainly
       not in any way a sport in which minorities are under
       represented, here or anywhere else.
       #Post#: 115957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: dr_miles
       Date: November 23, 2023, 4:24 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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       > LOL. It doesn't justify it, but if you think some white chap
       calling ugo an n-word is the same as a mixed race bloke doing it
       then I guess you don't listen to much hip hop.
       >
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       What does hip hop have to do with anything? Are you suggesting
       that all black people like hip hop and use that language?
       #Post#: 115959--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: November 23, 2023, 4:28 am
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       --- Quote from: dr_miles link ---
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       > What does hip hop have to do with anything? Are you suggesting
       that all black people like hip hop and use that language?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Huh? Are you Cathy Newman?
       #Post#: 115961--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: November 23, 2023, 4:53 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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       > LOL. It doesn't justify it, but if you think some white chap
       calling ugo an n-word is the same as a mixed race bloke doing it
       then I guess you don't listen to much hip hop.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So Ugo should just get over himself because the bloke was mixed
       race and might like hip hop?
       #Post#: 115962--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: November 23, 2023, 4:53 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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       > Really? I honestly have no idea what Luther is actually
       calling for here. Mixed race south Africans to get lifetime bans
       from english rugby stadia after racial abuse? OK. Little bit
       niche tho?
       >
       > How this is in any way connected to azeem rafiq I'm not sure.
       >
       > Sounds like Luther wants to drag rugby through the wringer,
       which seems a little bit of an overreaction considering the
       circumstances.
       >
       > I certainly agree with him that Rugby is too much a sport for
       the elites, but race is a massive red herring. It's certainly
       not in any way a sport in which minorities are under
       represented, here or anywhere else.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Rugby is a sport in which certain minorities are
       underrepresented, but no-one seems to care about them. I'm not
       sure why really - it has never made much sense to me. Some
       minorities are probably proportionately represented
       #Post#: 115968--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: November 23, 2023, 6:37 am
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       > Chiefs did report it
       > Staff jumped in to help, it was in the car park , it’s a 30min
       listen, make your own mind up
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       --- End Quote ---
       What's their source?
       #Post#: 115969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: Carbonm
       Date: November 23, 2023, 6:47 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
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       > LOL. It doesn't justify it, but if you think some white chap
       calling ugo an n-word is the same as a mixed race bloke doing it
       then I guess you don't listen to much hip hop.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I do listen to a little hip-hop tbf and what has language used
       in a hip-hop song got to to with this? It's like you are trying
       to argue mitigation because the alleged perpetrator wasn't
       white.
       #Post#: 115970--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 23, 2023, 6:47 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > So Ugo should just get over himself because the bloke was
       mixed race and might like hip hop?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I can't recall the last time a hip hop person was charged with
       an offence for using the term that Ugo has reported being used.
       Do you know?
       #Post#: 115971--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: November 23, 2023, 6:51 am
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       --- Quote from: dr_miles link ---
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       > What does hip hop have to do with anything? Are you suggesting
       that all black people like hip hop and use that language?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I've always found it bizarre that a word is rarely considered
       offensive unless a white person uses it 🤔
       What are your thoughts on that?
       #Post#: 115972--------------------------------------------------
       Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: November 23, 2023, 6:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > I can't recall the last time a hip hop person was charged with
       an offence for using the term that Ugo has reported being used.
       Do you know?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Surely that is irrelevant to the current situation.
       That would be like charging the actor Bruno Ganz for war-crimes
       because he played the role of Adolf Hitler in Downfall.
       What happens in the Arts is not the same as an actual event.
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