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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: Marsile
Date: November 21, 2023, 3:18 pm
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There Eggchaser podcast have released an extra episode. Makes
interesting listening. I think Monye might have exaggerated
things a tad and left a few key details out.
I don't think he'll come out of this unscathed.
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: November 21, 2023, 3:48 pm
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Oh dear.
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: Quinky
Date: November 22, 2023, 1:20 am
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--- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
>
> Oh dear.
>
--- End Quote ---
This could well be aimed at Arsile, but it's equally applicable
to the whole situation. Ugo (rightfully, it seems) was very
upset. Twitter (or whatever it's called now) gives limited
characters, and it's human nature (especially when upset) to put
things across in a passionate manner. And of course, Ugo gives
his side. The issue then comes when (as happened on here) a
reasonable question is met with "How dare you question
anything?" or words to that effect.
I'm not doubting Ugo. I also - like everyone on here - don't
know the full story. I wasn't there. There are always two sides
to every story. The idea that there can only be one side is one
of the reasons why the world is in such a cr*p state at the
moment.
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: November 22, 2023, 2:12 am
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In the interest of balance I shall leave this here from .gov.uk
and beat a hasty retreat to The Keep....
The data shows that, in the year to March 2022:
there were 663,036 arrests in England and Wales – a rate of 11.1
arrests per 1,000 people.
the arrest rate for black people was 2.4 times higher than for
white people – there were 21.2 arrests for every 1,000 black
people, and 9.0 arrests for every 1,000 white people.
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: November 22, 2023, 5:31 am
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--- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
>
> In the interest of balance I shall leave this here from
.gov.uk and beat a hasty retreat to The Keep....
>
>
> The data shows that, in the year to March 2022:
> there were 663,036 arrests in England and Wales – a rate of
11.1 arrests per 1,000 people.
> the arrest rate for black people was 2.4 times higher than for
white people – there were 21.2 arrests for every 1,000 black
people, and 9.0 arrests for every 1,000 white people.
>
--- End Quote ---
Why? In what way was balance required and how does this help?
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: Carbonm
Date: November 22, 2023, 8:24 am
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I agree with you to some extent, there's a lot of rumours, if,
buts and maybes flying around so there is a need for the
investigation to be released before making judgements. However
also there is no harm in offering sympathy for what Ugo
experienced and condemn racist abuse and if this man is guilty
then hoping he is held to account for his actions.
--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
>
> This could well be aimed at Arsile, but it's equally
applicable to the whole situation. Ugo (rightfully, it seems)
was very upset. Twitter (or whatever it's called now) gives
limited characters, and it's human nature (especially when
upset) to put things across in a passionate manner. And of
course, Ugo gives his side. The issue then comes when (as
happened on here) a reasonable question is met with "How dare
you question anything?" or words to that effect.
>
> I'm not doubting Ugo. I also - like everyone on here - don't
know the full story. I wasn't there. There are always two sides
to every story. The idea that there can only be one side is one
of the reasons why the world is in such a cr*p state at the
moment.
>
--- End Quote ---
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: championes
Date: November 22, 2023, 8:36 am
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--- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
>
> In the interest of balance I shall leave this here from
.gov.uk and beat a hasty retreat to The Keep....
>
>
> The data shows that, in the year to March 2022:
> there were 663,036 arrests in England and Wales – a rate of
11.1 arrests per 1,000 people.
> the arrest rate for black people was 2.4 times higher than for
white people – there were 21.2 arrests for every 1,000 black
people, and 9.0 arrests for every 1,000 white people.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sorry what is this meant to show?
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: Quinky
Date: November 22, 2023, 11:22 am
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--- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
>
> In the interest of balance I shall leave this here from
.gov.uk and beat a hasty retreat to The Keep....
>
>
> The data shows that, in the year to March 2022:
> there were 663,036 arrests in England and Wales – a rate of
11.1 arrests per 1,000 people.
> the arrest rate for black people was 2.4 times higher than for
white people – there were 21.2 arrests for every 1,000 black
people, and 9.0 arrests for every 1,000 white people.
>
--- End Quote ---
In the interest of balance, how does this compare to conviction
rates?
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: November 22, 2023, 11:29 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
>
> This could well be aimed at Arsile, but it's equally
applicable to the whole situation. Ugo (rightfully, it seems)
was very upset. Twitter (or whatever it's called now) gives
limited characters, and it's human nature (especially when
upset) to put things across in a passionate manner. And of
course, Ugo gives his side. The issue then comes when (as
happened on here) a reasonable question is met with "How dare
you question anything?" or words to that effect.
>
> I'm not doubting Ugo. I also - like everyone on here - don't
know the full story. I wasn't there. There are always two sides
to every story. The idea that there can only be one side is one
of the reasons why the world is in such a cr*p state at the
moment.
>
--- End Quote ---
I meant oh dear as in I listened to the egg chasers podcast and
it sounds to me like ugo definitely has questions to answer.
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Re: O/T Ugo says he was racially abused at Exeter
DIR By: never sleep
Date: November 22, 2023, 11:37 am
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I started listening to the egg chasers, but lost interest when
they started going down the route that mixed race people can't
be racist.
As I mentioned on the earlier post, the racial situation in
South Africa is somewhat complex. It certainly isn't white
people Vs everyone else. In fact, some other conflicts are
probably more explosive, eg Zulu Vs people of South Asian
heritage.
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