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       Re: Brexit
       By: deadlyfrom5yardsout Date: November 22, 2018, 2:45 am
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       Some splinters already! Spain want Gibraltar and France want
       fishing rights.....
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       Re: Brexit
       By: guest257 Date: November 22, 2018, 3:55 pm
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       My understanding was that it has to be approved by parliament
       here and also the EU.
       Not looking good on either side.
       Can’t see it being accepted at home. So with no-deal off the
       table (that won’t get voted for either) where do we go from
       here?
       A general election? Another referendum?
       And then it needs accepting by the EU.
       Remember...this is the easy bit. We haven’t even started on the
       complex negotiations on the future relationship and trade deal.
       That’ll take years.
       Is it worth it? Absolutely not.
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       Re: Brexit
       By: deadlyfrom5yardsout Date: November 25, 2018, 7:13 am
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       So the EU have ratified the deal today. Now the finest
       brinkmanship is required to get it through our Parliament.
       Interesting times!
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       Re: Brexit
       By: BedfordshireBoy Date: November 25, 2018, 1:41 pm
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       Time for a few to "put their money where their mouths are", as
       you say, interesting times.
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       Re: Brexit
       By: deadlyfrom5yardsout Date: November 26, 2018, 12:39 pm
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       I have watched the last two "debates" in Parliament featuring
       Mrs May. On both occasions she has spent literally hours
       fielding antagonistic questions from all corners. I came to
       realise that it was all just an exercise in allowing individual
       MP's a chance to put on record their opinion for the benefit of
       their Constituency Party.
       Ultimately it looks like the gambit will be, back the deal on
       the table because the alternative is unacceptable....
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       Re: Brexit
       By: guest257 Date: November 26, 2018, 2:03 pm
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       That’s her gamble. It’ll probably win through shear incompetence
       and apathy, as no-one will be able to come up with anything
       better. It’s this or remain and I think there will be one last
       hard push for a referundum or to call it off.
       In all honesty it’s a bit of a travesty how badly it’s gone. But
       they were warned.  Virtually no one is standing up and saying
       this is a good thing. Weird times.
       We really are terrible neighbours. Europe must be sick to death
       of us.
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       Re: Brexit
       By: guest257 Date: December 5, 2018, 6:59 am
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       Been watching the news with interest these last couple of days.
       Legal advice has now been published and the Tories are really in
       disgrace.  It's a very, very poor show to be held in contempt of
       parliament.
       My interpretation is, still that you cannot have a hard Brexit
       without breaking up the UK because of NI.  If that happens
       Scotland will become independent in due course.  Is it worth it?
       I still think the only solution if Brexit is to be implemented
       in an EEA/EFTA option like Norway.  There is simply no other way
       through.  The top brass don't want that as it's perceived to be
       the worst of both worlds
       (even though it isn't).  Are we ambitious and flexible enough
       for this compromise?
       Some have been warning of this for some time...
       Any thoughts?
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       Re: Brexit
       By: BedfordshireBoy Date: December 5, 2018, 3:58 pm
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       My head hurts!
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       Re: Brexit
       By: deadlyfrom5yardsout Date: December 7, 2018, 3:49 am
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       Well the way I see it, the Meaningful Vote next Tuesday is not
       the end of it. It is not even the beginning of the end etc..
       Labour want a General Election, SNP & Plaid Cymru want
       Independence, Green Party who knows, DUP want their cake and eat
       it, Lib Dems are currently irrelevant and there is schism in the
       Tory Party. We don't handle change very well.....
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       Re: Brexit
       By: BedfordshireBoy Date: December 7, 2018, 6:07 am
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       Common themyis of course that they are all politicians and oh
       interested in their own agendas, Brexit per we is almost
       irrelevant.
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