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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: September 9, 2023, 5:26 pm
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       One of the media myths about Farrell is his leadership and how
       this group of players can't function without it, yet tonight
       showed they are better without him. He'll be straight back in
       though.
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: September 9, 2023, 5:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
       >
       > England played 65+ minutes a player down and conceded 8 points
       in total and only 7 penalties. The lack of even really going for
       a try was clearly a deliberate tactic once the red card was
       awarded - keep the scoreboard ticking over to keep the pressure
       on Argentina.
       >
       > It wasn’t pretty rugby but it worked - but it’s also probably
       not indicative of what England can do with a full complement on
       the pitch.
       >
       > I’m worried now as to how England handle losing Curry to what
       is likely to be a 3-4 week ban unless the citing panel accepts
       some mitigation (which could happen - I think Curry was
       unsighted). I’m not sure what the rules are for replacing banned
       players at the RWC but presumably there has to b e a provision
       (imagine if two props got bans in successive matches). Given
       England’s remaining pool games can probably be won without him,
       I suspect Borthwick will keep him on even so, but it’s starting
       to get a bit dicey in terms of unavailable players.
       >
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       Isn’t Billy back for the next game? Two game ban would be Fiji
       and today.
       Assuming Curry also gets 2 games, we can shift Earl to 7 and
       play Billy at 8 v Japan.
       Also have Willis and Ludlum as more than able options.
       As it stands we’d have everyone back for the Samoa game.
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Carbonm
       Date: September 9, 2023, 5:29 pm
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       Great performance with 14 men and sets us up nicely for the
       group stage, how bad were Argentina? Still don't understand how
       Curry was a red, looked like the guy landed into him and curry
       was stationary waiting for him to land to make the tackle. I
       haven't watched it back so might be wrong
       #Post#: 113130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: quinalan
       Date: September 10, 2023, 2:42 am
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       Fantastic & historic win. Not been so involved in an England
       game for many years. Every one of those players last night were
       heroes. 77 mins with 14 men, in a critical World Cup match, & we
       found a way. Very proud.
       #Post#: 113132--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: September 10, 2023, 2:49 am
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       After the abject, commitment lacking, unintelligent rubbish
       mostly played since Autumn 2020 it was refreshing to see an
       organised defence and a 10 making intelligent decisions. Farrell
       does not get back in, but I bet he will somehow. Lawes
       performance was the type people want to see from the captain,
       not flapping his arms around whining at the ref.
       #Post#: 113135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: September 10, 2023, 3:13 am
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       Were the droppies a plan or spontaneous, I wonder?
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: September 10, 2023, 3:27 am
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       Spontaneous I believe.
       If Faz is in the team I don't think it happens either.
       In fact if Faz is in the team I'm not sure they win at all.
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: September 10, 2023, 4:04 am
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       So that's now 3 incredible performances since the 2019 semi
       against the Boks, Ireland (albeit a loss) and 20 great mins
       against the ABs for a draw. Farrell not on the pitch for the 3.5
       but he'll still walk in to the side!
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Bertielux
       Date: September 10, 2023, 4:36 am
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       I’m already fed up with the ITV coverage though.  Commentary is
       woeful and it just feels as though they are having their own
       private competition about how many pre planned phrases they can
       shoehorn in.
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Bowlocks
       Date: September 10, 2023, 5:19 am
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       I've always liked Nick Mullins commentary, serious and sometimes
       funny, loved his commentary during the Tigers Sarries final at
       Twickenham.
       Starting to warm towards Topsy Ojo.
       Haven't got time for Maggie Alphonsi.
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