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       Team v Argentina
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: September 7, 2023, 9:56 am
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       TEAM TO FACE ARGENTINA
       Starting
       15. Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, 26 caps)
       14. Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 73 caps)
       13. Joe Marchant (Stade Francais, 19 caps)
       12. Manu Tuilagi (Sale Sharks, 53 caps)
       11. Elliot Daly (Saracens, 59 caps)
       10. George Ford – vice-captain (Sale Sharks, 85 caps)
       9. Alex Mitchell (Northampton Saints, 6 caps)
       1. Ellis Genge – vice-captain (Bristol Bears, 52 caps)
       2. Jamie George (Saracens, 79 caps)
       3. Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 102 caps)
       4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, 70 caps)
       5. Ollie Chessum (Leicester Tigers, 11 caps)
       6. Courtney Lawes – captain (Northampton Saints, 100 caps)
       7. Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 45 caps)
       8. Ben Earl (Saracens, 18 caps)
       Replacements
       16. Theo Dan (Saracens, 3 caps)
       17. Joe Marler (Harlequins, 82 caps)
       18. Will Stuart (Bath Rugby, 29 caps)
       19. George Martin (Leicester Tigers, 3 caps)
       20. Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 21 caps)
       21. Danny Care (Harlequins, 90 caps)
       22. Marcus Smith (Harlequins, 24 caps)
       23. Ollie Lawrence (Bath Rugby, 14 caps)
       #Post#: 113010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: September 7, 2023, 10:45 am
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       Not a fan of Earl at 8, but I guess it's better than Curry.
       Under the circumstances it's as good a team as we can put out
       #Post#: 113014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: September 7, 2023, 11:39 am
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       Tuilagi's done nothing to earn that shirt over Lawrence, May was
       disastrous against Fiji, and Earl had a shocker. Curry has
       actual international experience at 8 and while not picking a
       backup 8 was one of many, many bad calls with this squad, Curry
       has at least done the job there decently before.
       #Post#: 113017--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Bod
       Date: September 7, 2023, 12:15 pm
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       Is that teams' cohesion as strong as Fiji's or do they rely on
       iPads and ear pods to get in their grove. This spirit, pride and
       belief in each other needs to be established
  HTML https://twitter.com/i/status/1699671339261431830
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Carbonm
       Date: September 7, 2023, 12:42 pm
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       Are we going to see Marcus at 10 even once this tournament
       😭
       Glad Marchant is finally given a chance after having a decent
       run in the side at last.
       I would have started Ludlum over a undercooked curry.
       Very worried about that back 3.
       #Post#: 113021--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 7, 2023, 1:15 pm
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       This is amusing.
       #Post#: 113022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: September 7, 2023, 1:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: Bod link ---
       >
       > Is that teams' cohesion as strong as Fiji's or do they rely on
       iPads and ear pods to get in their grove. This spirit, pride and
       belief in each other needs to be established
       >
  HTML https://twitter.com/i/status/1699671339261431830
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Literally Fijians wearing ear pods and headphones in that clip
       :-)
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: Seequin
       Date: September 7, 2023, 1:28 pm
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       It seems the best way to enhance your reputation and get picked
       for this England team is not to play.
       It applies to Curry, May, Mitchell.
       If you have played then get picked out of position, Earl, Daly.
       Then there are the players whose best days are well behind them,
       May, Cole, Tuilagi and sadly Itoje.
       We also seem to have four reserve full backs Smith, Daly,
       Malins, Arundell although we always pick Steward.
       #Post#: 113024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: September 7, 2023, 1:54 pm
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       Utter crap. Cole? He hasn’t been up to it for years at this
       level.
       The main problem is our pack has little gain line winners. Who’s
       going to put the hard yards in? Tuilagi offers nothing, and the
       back 3 are blunt as an attacking force. I’d have rolled the dice
       and given Smith a start at 15 if he wasn’t to be 10 and had
       Murley and Radwan on the wings just to give it a real go
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       Re: Team v Argentina
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: September 8, 2023, 3:22 am
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       How can Mitchell and May be starting when they weren't
       considered good enough to make the squad two weeks ago?
       Mitchell I'm not too fussed about. May is past it
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