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       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: Nemoquin
       Date: August 27, 2023, 8:46 am
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       For the benefit of any pedants out there: fish start to rot from
       the digestive tract, not the head.
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       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: August 27, 2023, 10:16 am
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       --- Quote from: Ozzie link ---
       >
       > The game was genuinely funny.
       >
       > But England will still make the quarter-finals and I wouldn't
       bet against them fluking a win, getting to the last four and the
       RFU giving Borthwick a brand new contract as a reward for his
       success.
       >
       > And they will still play crap.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I found out today (and I had to double-check as I couldn't
       believe it) that Borekick was handed a 5-year contract to start
       with. 5 blummin years. The RFU will be bankrupt by the end of it
       (if he lasts that long).
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       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: August 27, 2023, 1:01 pm
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       The RFU does a review after each series played and has
       frequently changed coaches after them. It did for Robinson,
       Ashton, Johnson, Lancaster and Eddie, and it will do for
       Borthwick if England don't show some signs of improvement. I
       would be very surprised if there weren't a break clause after
       each series - but equally an exit clause that determines how
       much the coach gets paid to leave. They're still human beings
       with families to feed, and they're not paid so much that they
       can afford to be cut loose with no guarantee of finding a new
       job quickly, so any agent worth their salt will have something
       put in the contract to give them a soft landing.
       This isn't that different from senior positions in any other
       walk of life. It's just that sports coaches are visible to a
       much wider audience than the average CEO.
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       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: Bod
       Date: August 27, 2023, 4:52 pm
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       However fluffy you may aspire to establish between the RFU and
       their employee I'm increasingly hacked off that failure deserves
       any kind of payoff. I don't get that if my LTD company goes
       tits-up.
       No fecker gets a pay off
       You take a big bucks position and don't deliver the bums on
       seats at HQ and associated merchandise sales value then please
       feck off.
       Don't expect to be paid for failure.
       #Post#: 112620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: August 27, 2023, 5:47 pm
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       The good news is that we do not drop below Wales in the
       rankings.
       The bad news is that we do drop below Argentina!
       And dangerously close to Japan and Samoa.
       #Post#: 112623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: Muzza
       Date: August 28, 2023, 1:02 am
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       Out of curiosity could someone explain why England wore black
       jerseys on Saturday.
       I do understand that the home team in international rugby has to
       change if there is a clash of colours. But who thought Black was
       a good colour for England. Wouldn't red from the St George flag
       be a good alternative. I do remember England had a purple jersey
       a few years back.
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       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: August 28, 2023, 1:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Camquin link ---
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       > The good news is that we do not drop below Wales in the
       rankings.
       > The bad news is that we do drop below Argentina!
       > And dangerously close to Japan and Samoa.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The rankings are very confusing. They don't look to have changed
       at all 🤔 the gap between SA and NZ is the same...
  HTML https://www.world.rugby/tournaments/rankings/mru
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       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: SunburyQuin
       Date: August 28, 2023, 2:10 am
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       After Samoa's performance v Ireland and if Japan bring their
       A-game against us, I am beginning to seriously doubt that
       England will get out of a so-called "softer" pool.
       #Post#: 112626--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: mighty_quin
       Date: August 28, 2023, 2:40 am
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       --- Quote from: Muzza link ---
       >
       > Out of curiosity could someone explain why England wore black
       jerseys on Saturday.
       >
       > I do understand that the home team in international rugby has
       to change if there is a clash of colours. But who thought Black
       was a good colour for England. Wouldn't red from the St George
       flag be a good alternative. I do remember England had a purple
       jersey a few years back.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe they picked a colour to reflect the nation’s rugby
       outlook.
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       Re: England v Fiji
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: August 28, 2023, 2:51 am
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       It was a dark blue strip rather than black.
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