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       #Post#: 111900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: August 12, 2023, 11:56 am
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       First 23 mins of this game and England still creating nothing
       but knock ins and rubbish from Daly.
       #Post#: 111901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: August 12, 2023, 11:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
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       > Oh sure, Care and Smith created loads of opportunities. Not.
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       > As regards Farrell, sure, he always gets a fair judgement in
       here! [emoji23]
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       --- End Quote ---
       No, they played a negative game plan. Smith put players into
       gaps a few times. Neither of them played like drains and neither
       made tons of errors.
       Farrell wasn't mentioned. You're fighting with your own
       reflection again.
       #Post#: 111902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > No, they played a negative game plan. Smith put players into
       gaps a few times. Neither of them played like drains and neither
       made tons of errors.
       >
       > Farrell wasn't mentioned. You're fighting with your own
       reflection again.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       So it makes no difference which 10 starts for England - whoever
       it is, it's Borthwick's gameplan that is the problem.
       #Post#: 111903--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: The Kid
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:10 pm
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       The sequence leading up to arundells yellow was just hilariously
       dire.
       JVP goes down injured, so no nine. Marchant fills in, leaving
       Arundell on his own. Farrell, for some reason sees fit to kick
       it to Arundell on his own, and wales draw the penalty.
       Unbelievably bad situational rugby. Good teams don’t do that.
       #Post#: 111904--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: Marsile link ---
       >
       >
       > So it makes no difference which 10 starts for England -
       whoever it is, it's Borthwick's gameplan that is the problem.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If he persists with that game plan, it is the primary problem.
       Of course, if players make mistakes, then that shouldn't be
       ignored.
       We're seeing another dire performance with the ball today, which
       is very worrying given it's essentially Borthwick's preferred
       team, injuries aside, against Welsh bin juice. I still expect us
       to win because our defence should be better, our set piece
       should be better, and Wales will not defend as well as last
       week, but it's another dreadful sign for the world cup.
       #Post#: 111905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:26 pm
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       Farrell has lit twickers up.  All hail little Faz.  Brings so
       much to the game.  Should play him in every position.  And
       Daly!?!  Fantastic.
       #Post#: 111906--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
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       > Farrell has lit twickers up.  All hail little Faz.  Brings so
       much to the game.  Should play him in every position.  And
       Daly!?!  Fantastic.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's the Borthwick gameplan™ fault.
       #Post#: 111907--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:35 pm
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       All those Saracens players are certainly making England a
       winning team with their open running play. Superb skill and
       execution. Can’t argue with Englands win ratio with them in the
       team and SBs game plan. At least if we played the way Saints,
       Quins, Bears, Glaws do it would be entertaining when we lost.
       #Post#: 111908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:36 pm
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       He started well but since then his kicks have been unsuccessful,
       one led to the yellow (really really dumb by Arundell) and with
       penalty advantage in their 22 he lumbered into contact and lost
       the ball.
       He's far from England's biggest problem and has done some good
       things. I expect a much better second half though, as famously
       he drives standards and lifts those around him. He won't want
       England to meander through the second half and he's right.
       #Post#: 111909--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:36 pm
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       You banned from the Cheats board?  Seem to spend a lot of time
       on here.
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