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       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: August 11, 2023, 6:17 am
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       --- Quote from: Harleys Evil Step Mum link ---
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       > Thing that makes me laugh is that we are playing a certain
       'style' in order to assure a win.....but we aren't doing that
       either!!!
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       I don't think last week's team was selected to get a win.
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       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: August 11, 2023, 6:28 am
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       It was a roaring success then!
       #Post#: 111885--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Quinspur
       Date: August 11, 2023, 11:21 am
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       Part of me - a small part - hopes Wales will win so this awful
       Borthwick era can be terminated early.  It will never happen of
       course, but in about forty years of watching England, I find the
       rugby they play the most desperately poor I’ve seen, given the
       skills of the players when they are with their clubs.
       #Post#: 111886--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: August 11, 2023, 11:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinspur link ---
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       > Part of me - a small part - hopes Wales will win so this awful
       Borthwick era can be terminated early.  It will never happen of
       course, but in about forty years of watching England, I find the
       rugby they play the most desperately poor I’ve seen, given the
       skills of the players when they are with their clubs.
       >
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       I doubt the match against Wales will have any direct impact on
       Borthwick's tenure either way.
       If England fail to get out of their pool then maybe he'll get
       the boot but only because it's so weak. Even then they'll have
       time to select a new coach, which they didn't have after Jones,
       so he'll probably still be around for the 6 Nations.
       #Post#: 111894--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Harleys Evil Step Mum
       Date: August 12, 2023, 5:07 am
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       Easy to forget that we've actually lost 4 out of Steves first 6
       games in charge....and the last time at HQ was when the French
       tore us apart......I'm a very glum England fan sadly.
       #Post#: 111895--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: August 12, 2023, 6:10 am
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       It's easier to forget we've won 2 of his 6.
       #Post#: 111896--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: August 12, 2023, 6:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Harleys Evil Step Mum link ---
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       > Easy to forget that we've actually lost 4 out of Steves first
       6 games in charge....and the last time at HQ was when the French
       tore us apart......I'm a very glum England fan sadly.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       These are the kind of stats that bring joy to my cold dead heart
       #Post#: 111897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: August 12, 2023, 11:00 am
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       --- Quote from: sussexquin link ---
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       > Last weeks 8/9/10 looks to have paid for playing the ‘defined’
       team plan which was never their forte. Hopefully they will get a
       better chance during the tournament and not a dead rubber match
       or chasing a lost cause, especially for Danny in his last chance
       World Cup.
       >
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       Quins players play like drains for England = coaches fault
       Not Quins players play like drains for England = Farrell's fault
       Beautiful. [emoji23]
       #Post#: 111898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: August 12, 2023, 11:30 am
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       Neither Care nor Smith played like drains last week and he never
       mentioned Farrell but you keep on obsessing over us
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       Re: England team v Wales
   DIR By: Marsile
       Date: August 12, 2023, 11:40 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Neither Care nor Smith played like drains last week and he
       never mentioned Farrell but you keep on obsessing over us
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Oh sure, Care and Smith created loads of opportunities. Not.
       As regards Farrell, sure, he always gets a fair judgement in
       here! [emoji23]
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