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       #Post#: 111498--------------------------------------------------
       Smith to start
   DIR By: Twickersman
       Date: August 2, 2023, 4:26 pm
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       Gavin Mairs, in the Telegraph had an exclusive. He states that
       Smith has trained very well this summer and that Borhwick is
       going to start him against Wales this Saturday.
       Let's hope he takes the opportunity with both hands.
       #Post#: 111500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: August 3, 2023, 3:23 am
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       Lets hope DC, Dommers and Nacho are there for him too
       #Post#: 111503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: August 3, 2023, 3:52 am
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       FWIW, in their teaser for the squad announcement, England’s
       socials are highlighting Itoje, a front row of Cole, Blamire and
       (less prominently) Marler, Ludlum and Smith.
       #Post#: 111504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: August 3, 2023, 3:54 am
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       No point in starting him unless Farrell is on the bench. Perhaps
       maybe they've worked on the issues in training though, IE
       letting smith be the first receiver and able to express himself
       more.
       Personally I would like to see Lawrence at 12 and Marchant at
       13, as I think OL would be the big runner Smith needs.
       #Post#: 111505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: August 3, 2023, 4:07 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
       >
       > FWIW, in their teaser for the squad announcement, England’s
       socials are highlighting Itoje, a front row of Cole, Blamire and
       (less prominently) Marler, Ludlum and Smith.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Soooo a possibles match then (minus Itoje). Good PR work I
       guess.
       #Post#: 111514--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: Audi Quintro
       Date: August 3, 2023, 5:57 am
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       Smith, Care, Dommers and Marchant have all been poor for
       England. They shouldn't be anywhere near a Test side
       #Post#: 111515--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: August 3, 2023, 6:03 am
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       --- Quote from: Audi Quintro link ---
       >
       > Smith, Care, Dommers and Marchant have all been poor for
       England. They shouldn't be anywhere near a Test side
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well, you're going to just love the side Barthwick's just named!
       [emoji41]
       England team v Wales: 1. Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears - Captain)
       2. Jamie Blamire (Newcastle Falcons) 3. Will Stuart (Bath Rugby)
       4. David Ribbans (Toulon) 5. George Martin (Leicester Tigers) 6.
       Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints) 7. Tom Pearson (Northampton
       Saints) 8. Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins) 9. Danny Care
       (Harlequins) 10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins) 11. Joe Cokanasiga
       (Bath Rugby) 12. Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers) 13. Joe Marchant
       (Stade Francais) 14. Max Malins (Bristol Bears) 15. Freddie
       Steward (Leicester Tigers)
       Replacements: 16. Theo Dan (Saracens) 17. Bevan Rodd (Sale
       Sharks) 18. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears) 19. Jonny Hill (Sale
       Sharks) 20. Tom Willis (Saracens) 21. Jack van Poortvliet
       (Leicester Tigers) 22. George Ford (Sale Sharks) 23. Henry Slade
       (Exeter Chiefs)
       #Post#: 111516--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: August 3, 2023, 6:04 am
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       All 3 start. Farrell not in the 23
       Edit: looking at the squad again (especially the starting 15),
       there are very few who finished last season playing for Sarries
       or Sale. I’d guess the later arrivals to the camp have been more
       likely to be left out of the first game.
       #Post#: 111519--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: RhubarbAndGustard
       Date: August 3, 2023, 6:09 am
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       --- Quote from: Audi Quintro link ---
       >
       > Smith, Care, Dommers and Marchant have all been poor for
       England. They shouldn't be anywhere near a Test side
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Partially agree, but Smith hasn’t had a chance to run the show,
       Care has been poor as a starter but still has value as a
       finisher, Marchant has been good in cameos but hasn’t had a run
       of opportunities so I think they deserve another shot. Dombrandt
       has had plenty of opportunities and hasn’t excelled
       unfortunately and I would like to see Tom Willis get a chance to
       start
       #Post#: 111522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Smith to start
   DIR By: RhubarbAndGustard
       Date: August 3, 2023, 6:19 am
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
       >
       > Well, you're going to just love the side Barthwick's just
       named! [emoji41]
       >
       > England team v Wales: 1. Ellis Genge (Bristol Bears - Captain)
       2. Jamie Blamire (Newcastle Falcons) 3. Will Stuart (Bath Rugby)
       4. David Ribbans (Toulon) 5. George Martin (Leicester Tigers) 6.
       Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints) 7. Tom Pearson (Northampton
       Saints) 8. Alex Dombrandt (Harlequins) 9. Danny Care
       (Harlequins) 10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins) 11. Joe Cokanasiga
       (Bath Rugby) 12. Guy Porter (Leicester Tigers) 13. Joe Marchant
       (Stade Francais) 14. Max Malins (Bristol Bears) 15. Freddie
       Steward (Leicester Tigers)
       >
       > Replacements: 16. Theo Dan (Saracens) 17. Bevan Rodd (Sale
       Sharks) 18. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears) 19. Jonny Hill (Sale
       Sharks) 20. Tom Willis (Saracens) 21. Jack van Poortvliet
       (Leicester Tigers) 22. George Ford (Sale Sharks) 23. Henry Slade
       (Exeter Chiefs)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It’s a warm up game so I won’t read too much into this
       selection, but what’s the point of recalling Murley if you’re
       not going to give him a chance
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