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       #Post#: 111716--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: Audi Quintro
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinspur link ---
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       > Theo Dan???   And only one specialist No.8?
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       Theo Dan was awful.
       #Post#: 111717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:40 am
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       --- Quote from: Audi Quintro link ---
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       > Theo Dan was awful.
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       He was. But so was Blamire so....
       If only LCD was fit enough to go.
       #Post#: 111718--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:43 am
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       To be honest - I think that not being called up for this world
       cup is basically dodging a bullet.
       I would love it if England were to do well in the competition.
       But - to be realistic, based on the last X games that I have
       seen, England lacks any sort of game plan. I can't see us
       suddenly coming together and becoming a good team between now
       and the start of the competition.
       We should get though to the quarter finals - but, if our game is
       going to rely on us hoping that the other team can knock on the
       ball so that we can win a kickable penalty from the following
       scrum, then we shouldn't really be expecting much.
       Probably our best hope is that there is a player revolt (à la
       2007 world cup) and choose their own game plans.
       #Post#: 111719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: championes
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:47 am
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       --- Quote from: The Kid link ---
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       > Dombrandt is definitely one of the best 19 forwards in England
       but not for what Borthwick wants to do.
       >
       > Having a pissed off Dombrandt and Murley back is really good
       news for Quins in the short term. Expect us to get out of the
       traps fast.
       >
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       Well it wasn’t last year. I love Dommers but he was one of the
       worst players for England in the 6 nations - and he was awful
       for the rest of the season when he came back to us.
       He knocked on four times in a game at the stoop and did similar
       over the road in the “summer” big game in April. Confidence
       looked shot totally.
       He was once again awful on Sat in Cardiff.
       He’s a very unconventional 8 and it hasn’t worked as well since
       our winning season - his performance relies on a very specific
       combo of pace and front foot ball that other teams no longer
       allow us generally.
       I think Cunningham-South is likely to prove to be a better
       option for us if he keeps his development going. Sad to say it,
       but just think the lack of pure physicality is Dommers’ weakness
       now everyone has got used to him.
       Nothing he’s done make him look like an international player.
       #Post#: 111720--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:50 am
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       Much as I would have preferred Randall or Quirke, it's pretty
       incredible for Danny if he gets some proper WC games - can't
       believe he'd have been happy with Uruguay in a dead game as his
       only WC appearance with 90 caps across 15 years!
       #Post#: 111721--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:54 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
       >
       > To be honest - I think that not being called up for this world
       cup is basically dodging a bullet.
       >
       > I would love it if England were to do well in the competition.
       > But - to be realistic, based on the last X games that I have
       seen, England lacks any sort of game plan. I can't see us
       suddenly coming together and becoming a good team between now
       and the start of the competition.
       > We should get though to the quarter finals - but, if our game
       is going to rely on us hoping that the other team can knock on
       the ball so that we can win a kickable penalty from the
       following scrum, then we shouldn't really be expecting much.
       >
       > Probably our best hope is that there is a player revolt (à la
       2007 world cup) and choose their own game plans.
       >
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Where we'd play Australia, Fiji or Wales all of whom we can beat
       in a one-off game and have a decent record against recently. A
       semi final drubbing at the hands of NZ, SA, France or Ireland is
       very possible and with it a 4th place finish.
       #Post#: 111722--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Audi Quintro link ---
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       > Dumbrant has failed to transfer his club form to international
       level. He simply isn't good enough
       >
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       Dumbrant? You called Marcus Smith 'Shith' a few days back. You
       sure you're a Quins fan? You spend most of the time slagging off
       Quins players.
       #Post#: 111723--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: Audi Quintro
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:58 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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       > He was. But so was Blamire so....
       >
       > If only LCD was fit enough to go.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Blamire was miles better
       #Post#: 111724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: August 7, 2023, 4:59 am
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       I think from a back row point of view, this is a good tournament
       to miss for Dommers as we'll get schooled there by Argentina and
       either wales or Oz so better he stays at home. Gutted for him,
       of course
       #Post#: 111725--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Who will be in Steve Borthwick's England squad
   DIR By: Audi Quintro
       Date: August 7, 2023, 5:00 am
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       --- Quote from: Man From LA link ---
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       > Dumbrant? You called Marcus Smith 'Shith' a few days back. You
       sure you're a Quins fan? You spend most of the time slagging off
       Quins players.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm still correct though so don't shoot the messenger
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