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       #Post#: 109452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: May 30, 2023, 2:37 am
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       Even if they increase the cap, are we in a position to afford to
       spend any more given the current financial situation.
       Cunningham South for sure, Arundell probably not needed as
       we have quality wingers. Would be an expensive luxury. There are
       players you would like in the squad for extra depth but we’re
       not Salarycens……….
       #Post#: 109461--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: May 30, 2023, 4:04 am
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       According to Charlie Morgan in the Torygraph, "Harlequins and
       Bath are two other clubs said to be “respectfully keeping tabs
       on the situation” at Irish more generally.".
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       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 30, 2023, 4:06 am
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
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       > Under no circumstances should we go near Paddy Jackson.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Based on the only thing that we did wrong is that he sent some
       dodgy WhatsApp messages in 2018 (i.e. 5 years ago)  which he
       apologised for, do you think we should move on from that view?
       He was unanimously acquitted of the sexual assault charges.
       In the past, we forgave Mike Brown and Danny Care after their
       alleged sexual assault case.
       Some others did feel that it was time to move on from Folau's
       social media postings. Would the same argument apply here?
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       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 30, 2023, 4:06 am
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       I don't think that we really need any more players. Getting more
       players from other clubs will hinder the progress of our
       squad/academy players.
       We would be pretty grumpy if, for example, Saracens picked up a
       few of our promising junior/academy players - e.g. Cassius
       Cleaves for practically no money because we had blown the budget
       on Henry Arundell.
       Money is tight at the moment. We have to make sure that we are
       getting value for money. Our current squad numbers 60 players
       (if I have my sums right).  Spending money of squad players
       (which I include Cunningham-South in as he would be behind
       Dommers) would be foolish.
       #Post#: 109475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: May 30, 2023, 5:32 am
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       Arundell, would we really? What's he scored, like 10 tries in 2
       and a bit years? Irish have been brilliant this season so he
       should have been pushing Cadan for top try scorer at least but
       hasn't really. I fear another OLH, brilliantly quick but only
       scores worldies a couple of times a year. I'm happier with our
       stock of wingers, thanks.
       Cunningham South, does he improve our squad? I think he does, I
       have nothing against Archie White but Cunningham South is a
       level up.
       #Post#: 109479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: Quanks
       Date: May 30, 2023, 5:45 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > Based on the only thing that we did wrong is that he sent some
       dodgy WhatsApp messages in 2018 (i.e. 5 years ago)  which he
       apologised for, do you think we should move on from that view?
       > He was unanimously acquitted of the sexual assault charges.
       > In the past, we forgave Mike Brown and Danny Care after their
       alleged sexual assault case.
       >
       > Some others did feel that it was time to move on from Folau's
       social media postings. Would the same argument apply here?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As a club we can choose who we sign. If we signed Jackson then
       my season ticket would be going straight in the bin. It would be
       the same if we signed Folau.
       You also have to remember that a number of sponsors, such as
       Guinness which been linked to Irish for ages, dropped them over
       Jackson's signing. From a purely financial perspective it
       doesn't make sense.
       #Post#: 109481--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 30, 2023, 5:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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       > Cunningham South, does he improve our squad? I think he does,
       I have nothing against Archie White but Cunningham South is a
       level up.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       But, both Chis and Lawday can also play at #8.
       I think that an injury free Chis is a actually a really good #8
       and certainly pushes Dommers. Is Cunningham South better than
       Chis? Even if he is - is it worth spending the extra cash for a
       marginal gain of a better squad player.
       In my opinion - no it isn't.
       #Post#: 109483--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: fromrichmond
       Date: May 30, 2023, 6:05 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
       >
       > Based on the only thing that we did wrong is that he sent some
       dodgy WhatsApp messages in 2018 (i.e. 5 years ago)  which he
       apologised for, do you think we should move on from that view?
       > He was unanimously acquitted of the sexual assault charges.
       > In the past, we forgave Mike Brown and Danny Care after their
       alleged sexual assault case.
       >
       > Some others did feel that it was time to move on from Folau's
       social media postings. Would the same argument apply here?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It was not the only thing he did wrong.  He was not convicted of
       assault but he did behave like scum. Would you be happy if that
       had been your daughters then? Would that be ok with you.
       I know 6 ex LI fans who did not renew when he was signed.
       No way would I contribute that that guys salary.
       As for Folau I think every one is entitled to their own opinion
       - I do not agree with his  sentiment but I do not think you have
       the right to tell others what they are allowed to think - he is
       very religions and that is part of his religion.
       The quran for instance says that gay people should be killed -
       that a wife has to obey a husband and  a husband is allowed to
       hit is wife I have read it and I know it is there.  If you are
       so wonderfully woke why are you not up in arms about that?
       #Post#: 109485--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: May 30, 2023, 6:11 am
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       Probably because he's judging Folau for his words and actions.
       If Sonny Bill Williams (a muslim) had publicly said gays must be
       killed then I'm sure never sleep would be equally unforgiving.
       It's not like millions and millions of people don't pick and
       choose the bits of the religions they follow to actually pay
       attention to, and also make personal choices on how they talk
       about and display their religious beliefs that can vary wildly.
       But I suspect it's a good idea to go look at the other forum set
       up here for this sort of conversation. People will have personal
       issues with signing Jackson. Not everyone, maybe not even a
       minority, but it's going to be a factor and it's worth
       mentioning, but it's definitely not worth trying to litigate
       people's personal opinions on the matter beyond acknowleding
       they exist.
       On Arundell: He looks like a generational talent and any team
       would be lucky to have him. But I agree a backrower is likely a
       priority. I am also fond of their ginger scrum half who used to
       be in our academy apparently, he has a bullet pass.
       #Post#: 109494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What London Irish players would you like Quins to sign. 
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: May 30, 2023, 6:24 am
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       Surprised no one else is mentioning Will Joseph - the perfect
       like-for-like replacement for Marchant...
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