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       #Post#: 109129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: May 22, 2023, 4:13 am
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       Mr Folau should stop and think how what he says as a well known
       role model might affect other people. As for his rugby ability
       that is not in question but his approach to life is a little
       questionable. Maybe rugby needs a Balanced Approach to Life
       School?
       #Post#: 109145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: May 22, 2023, 11:34 am
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       > Who said they did?
       >
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       No answer then. Nothing new there.
       #Post#: 109157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: Bod
       Date: May 22, 2023, 3:37 pm
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
       >
       > Mr Folau should stop and think how what he says as a well
       known role model might affect other people. As for his rugby
       ability that is not in question but his approach to life is a
       little questionable. Maybe rugby needs a Balanced Approach to
       Life School?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe Israel Falau reflects certain cultural values that he hold
       close. Denying his right to express these seems unfair when
       other cultures might spout points of view unhindered that might
       offend his constituency. Is it only a one way street when it
       comes to the right to express an opinion?
       #Post#: 109161--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 23, 2023, 4:18 am
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       So, you are suggesting that it is okay to express homophobic
       views to his 117,000 followers.
       Would you still say that it was okay if he were to express
       racist views to his many followers?
       I don't understand why homophobia is being defended.
       #Post#: 109163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: May 23, 2023, 4:28 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > So, you are suggesting that it is okay to express homophobic
       views to his 117,000 followers.
       >
       > Would you still say that it was okay if he were to express
       racist views to his many followers?
       >
       > I don't understand why homophobia is being defended.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What you don't understand is the difference between people
       defending his views, and people defending his right to hold
       those views.
       I may not agree with everything that you say, but I have no
       desire to stop you from saying anything.
       #Post#: 109165--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: May 23, 2023, 4:38 am
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       There's a big difference between all this "woke" malarkey and
       knowing that what somebody is saying is harmful and just not
       right.
       #Post#: 109166--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 23, 2023, 4:42 am
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       He is free to hold any views that he likes.
       However, he is not free to express those views to over a hundred
       thousand people without consequences.
       He did express his views. He is experiencing the consequences of
       expressing his views.
       This seems fair enough to me. Or do you disagree?
       #Post#: 109170--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: May 23, 2023, 5:51 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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       > He is free to hold any views that he likes.
       >
       > However, he is not free to express those views to over a
       hundred thousand people without consequences.
       >
       > He did express his views. He is experiencing the consequences
       of expressing his views.
       > This seems fair enough to me. Or do you disagree?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure if that was for me or Telephone Box Man. Anyway, in a
       free speech society everyone has the right to reply to anything
       anyone else says and quite rightly so. There are offside rules
       though.
       #Post#: 109171--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: May 23, 2023, 6:04 am
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       --- Quote from: deadlyfrom5yardsout link ---
       >
       > Not sure if that was for me or Telephone Box Man. Anyway, in a
       free speech society everyone has the right to reply to anything
       anyone else says and quite rightly so. There are offside rules
       though.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No Deadly - the reply wasn't for you. I just forgot to hit the
       Quote button.
       #Post#: 109184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: May 23, 2023, 9:45 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
       >
       > He is free to hold any views that he likes.
       >
       > However, he is not free to express those views to over a
       hundred thousand people without consequences.
       >
       > He did express his views. He is experiencing the consequences
       of expressing his views.
       > This seems fair enough to me. Or do you disagree?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And at what point do you think he should be left alone to
       continue with his career, without people going on about his
       views, and deciding they should boo whilst he does his job?
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