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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Quinky Date: May 20, 2023, 11:04 pm
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[quote author=never sleep link=topic=5968.msg109066#msg109066
date=1684619109]
Maybe I chose a poor example.
But, imagine for one plenty that a white Quins player had said
that all black people have a place in hell waiting for them
Do you think that we would be as tolerant?
[/quote]
Why not explain your point using what he actually thinks, rather
than coming up with an example of something he didn't say?
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: never sleep Date: May 21, 2023, 2:10 am
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Because, maybe some people consider his views on gay people to
be acceptable as long as he backs it up with biblical evidence.
So, I tried to find an equivalent example that isn't backed up
by the Bible.
Maybe I am falling to make the point here
Basically, I have no issue with him being homophobic. He has the
right to think whatever he likes. We don't have "thought police'
.
But, I do have an issue when he expresses homophobic views to
thousands of followers
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Adrian Date: May 21, 2023, 2:11 am
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What point are you trying to score Quinky?
He puts out a homophopic tweet, people get angry about it so why
should they focus on his rugby only?
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Quinky Date: May 21, 2023, 4:05 am
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[quote author=never sleep link=topic=5968.msg109073#msg109073
date=1684653032]
Because, maybe some people consider his views on gay people to
be acceptable as long as he backs it up with biblical evidence.
So, I tried to find an equivalent example that isn't backed up
by the Bible.
Maybe I am falling to make the point here
Basically, I have no issue with him being homophobic. He has the
right to think whatever he likes. We don't have "thought police'
.
But, I do have an issue when he expresses homophobic views to
thousands of followers
[/quote]
Would you have an issue if he said that all Brexit voters should
burn in hell? Or all Trump voters?
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Quinky Date: May 21, 2023, 4:05 am
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[quote author=AdrianB link=topic=5968.msg109074#msg109074
date=1684653112]
What point are you trying to score Quinky?
He puts out a homophopic tweet, people get angry about it so why
should they focus on his rugby only?
[/quote]
Not trying to score any points. I don't need to.
What's your angle on this?
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Mayor West Date: May 21, 2023, 4:06 am
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Everybody who wishes to express their feelings on his homophobic
views can boo him every time he touches the ball.
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Quinky Date: May 21, 2023, 4:08 am
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[quote author=Mayor West link=topic=5968.msg109082#msg109082
date=1684659996]
Everybody who wishes to express their feelings on his homophobic
views can boo him every time he touches the ball.
[/quote]
They can. But where does it end? Should the vegans boo
meat-eaters?
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: never sleep Date: May 21, 2023, 5:39 am
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[quote author=Quinky link=topic=5968.msg109079#msg109079
date=1684659904]
Would you have an issue if he said that all Brexit voters should
burn in hell? Or all Trump voters?
[/quote]
The thing is Quinky - besides the moral aspect, there are laws
about what you can and can't say on the internet or in live
speach.
If he had just posted once - and then taken it down and
apologised saying that he hadn't really thought about his
posting, then in my view, that would be forgivable.
But, from memory, he continued to double down on what he had
said - which is why Rugby Australia had to let him go.
I think that even after he switched to league, he continued to
be outspoken and Catalan Dragons also had to let him go.
It is a fine line between posting random thoughts and posting
things like "burn in hell".
For info - here are some points -
"A hate incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone
else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them
because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability
or because they are transgender."
"Incitement to hatred
The offence of incitement to hatred occurs when someone acts in
a way that is threatening and intended to stir up hatred. That
could be in words, pictures, videos, music, and includes
information posted on websites."
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Quinten Poulsen Date: May 21, 2023, 5:48 am
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[quote]which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on
someone’s prejudice [/quote]
That's the main problem with so called hate speech.
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Re: Re: BaaBass v World XV
By: Brown Bottle Date: May 21, 2023, 6:05 am
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[quote author=Quinten Poulsen
link=topic=5968.msg109086#msg109086 date=1684666110]
That's the main problem with so called hate speech.
[/quote]
Hitler was a very much misunderstood man!
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