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#Post#: 9126--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: October 23, 2018, 12:30 pm
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--- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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> Back to the topic at hand, EPCR have addressed the question
HTML https://www.epcrugby.com/2018/10/23/epcr-statement-bath-rugby-v-toulouse/<br
/>regarding whether the whistle was blown early.
>
--- End Quote ---
I think most of the Bath fans knew this. Bit daft really.
#Post#: 9143--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: October 24, 2018, 4:49 am
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So now Craig has someone to blame he should banish BT from his
ground and forgoe any revenues therefrom if he means what he
says.
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Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: guest257
Date: October 24, 2018, 6:42 am
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--- Quote from: Everyone’s a Quinner link ---
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> [quote author=InsertQuinsPunHere
link=topic=595.msg9028#msg9028 date=1540153605]
> [quote author=Quinten Poulsen link=topic=595.msg8853#msg8853
date=1540041307]
> There are 100,000 Bruce Craigs congregating in London today
apparently.
>
--- End Quote ---
I refer the honourable gentleman to the following quote.
--- Quote from: Ian Hislop ---
>
> after an election or a referendum, even if you lose the vote,
you are entitled to go on making the argument
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
Fair enough we can’t help how we feel as individuals and are
allowed to speak freely about it, we are adult after all.
But once a vote/result has been made, this should be honoured.
If not what do we make it; best of 3, best of 5, best of 7
perhaps, maybe best of 33? It all gets a bit silly and what’s
the point of a fair vote/game if we don’t stick to the end
result. I wonder had it been the other way round, would that
side who argue then still feel the same way about a
revote/rematch? Then would that be fair?
I just feel it’s very toys out of pram stuff.
[/quote]
Re the Brexit referendum, it's not a case of just demanding a
rematch. The situation is very different now.
It has been proven:
1) Brexit is completely undeliverable as promised
2) The Leave campaign broke the law
3) There may have been Russian interference with the vote
4) The people responsible for delivering Brexit are so hideously
badly prepared and light on understanding of the technical
detail it makes a mockery of the whole thing
5) There was no clear mandate for a "hard Brexit" and the result
has been hijacked by self interested individuals
A responsible government would call the whole thing off for a
few years and think again once better prepared and they've got a
plan in place. This government isn't responsible or competent.
The opposition is worse.
I fundamentally don't agree with having a second referendum as
we need to honour the result - but I can't see a way out of this
mess - and we have to get out of it.
On another note it has cost me/my wife a lot (c.£2k) in
citizenship for her (she is Finnish), as we just don't trust the
government not to use her as a bargaining chip.
The whole things is a shambles beyond belief.
#Post#: 9155--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: DOK
Date: October 24, 2018, 6:44 am
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Can you people not go set up a Brexit message on the non-rugby
board and all pile in over there?
#Post#: 9157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: guest257
Date: October 24, 2018, 6:49 am
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--- Quote from: DOK link ---
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> Can you people not go set up a Brexit message on the non-rugby
board and all pile in over there?
>
--- End Quote ---
I think you need to set up a poll and we should all vote on it?
#Post#: 9166--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: October 24, 2018, 9:06 am
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Plus a re-vote of course...
#Post#: 9168--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: October 24, 2018, 9:10 am
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Don't worry. It'll be fine.
#Post#: 9195--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: marlowish
Date: October 25, 2018, 3:19 am
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--- Quote from: Ian Hislop ---
>
> after an election or a referendum, even if you lose the vote,
you are entitled to go on making the argument
--- End Quote ---
[/quote]
Fair enough we can’t help how we feel as individuals and are
allowed to speak freely about it, we are adult after all.
But once a vote/result has been made, this should be honoured.
If not what do we make it; best of 3, best of 5, best of 7
perhaps, maybe best of 33? It all gets a bit silly and what’s
the point of a fair vote/game if we don’t stick to the end
result. I wonder had it been the other way round, would that
side who argue then still feel the same way about a
revote/rematch? Then would that be fair?
I just feel it’s very toys out of pram stuff.
[/quote]
Re the Brexit referendum, it's not a case of just demanding a
rematch. The situation is very different now.
It has been proven:
1) Brexit is completely undeliverable as promised
2) The Leave campaign broke the law
3) There may have been Russian interference with the vote
4) The people responsible for delivering Brexit are so hideously
badly prepared and light on understanding of the technical
detail it makes a mockery of the whole thing
5) There was no clear mandate for a "hard Brexit" and the result
has been hijacked by self interested individuals
A responsible government would call the whole thing off for a
few years and think again once better prepared and they've got a
plan in place. This government isn't responsible or competent.
The opposition is worse.
I fundamentally don't agree with having a second referendum as
we need to honour the result - but I can't see a way out of this
mess - and we have to get out of it.
On another note it has cost me/my wife a lot (c.£2k) in
citizenship for her (she is Finnish), as we just don't trust the
government not to use her as a bargaining chip.
The whole things is a shambles beyond belief.
[/quote]
So Hislop says it so it has to be respected then?
It is not different it is exactly the same as Bath the remoaners
just want a new referendum until they win, they do not
understand that if there was another referendum and they won the
leave side would have the right to yet another vote in 2 years.
Or do they think that we just have another referendum until they
win?
There was clear mandate for hard Brexit that is what people
voted for. You have no idea what people thought as they voted.
Sorry about your wife but I think you are just being childish
and hysterical.
I assume that you are a millennial and have a sense of
entitlement that you can have everything you want.
The way democracy works is that sometimes you lose.
It is not a perfect system but is better than any other.
I was ambiguous during the vote but the EU attitude disgusts me
and made me a firm leaver.
It is like leaving a private gym and the gym saying you have to
obey all our rules and be punished for leaving.
I also want laws that govern me to be made by our Parliament who
I have the right to vote against if I wish to whereas I have
never been given the opportunity to vote for against anyone on
the unelected socialist EU Council who make European law
#Post#: 9198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
Date: October 25, 2018, 4:00 am
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So, about the other page for Everything non rugby related......
#Post#: 9205--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
DIR By: Chipstead Quin
Date: October 25, 2018, 5:28 am
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Anyway apparently Bruce Craig was looking at the wrong clock (
ie not the one on the Ref's wrist or in the timekeepers hand )
.. so a load of bluff and bluster about nothing .
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