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       #Post#: 9029--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: October 21, 2018, 3:35 pm
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       Indeed. I'm fully behind Bruce's right to demand a rematch!
       #Post#: 9035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: marlowish
       Date: October 22, 2018, 3:07 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > good lord that's a dumb comment
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No its is valid and a reflection of the whinging and whinging
       that many people do when they do not get their own way
       #Post#: 9038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: October 22, 2018, 4:13 am
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       --- Quote from: marlowish link ---
       > No its is valid and a reflection of the whinging and whinging
       that many people do when they do not get their own way
       --- End Quote ---
       He who thinks only of number one must remember this number is
       next to nothing.
       #Post#: 9066--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: Everyone’s a Quinner
       Date: October 22, 2018, 12:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: InsertQuinsPunHere link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Quinten Poulsen link=topic=595.msg8853#msg8853
       date=1540041307]
       > There are 100,000 Bruce Craigs congregating in London today
       apparently.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I refer the honourable gentleman to the following quote.
       --- Quote from: Ian Hislop ---
       >
       > after an election or a referendum, even if you lose the vote,
       you are entitled to go on making the argument
       --- End Quote ---
       [/quote]
       Fair enough we can’t help how we feel as individuals and are
       allowed to speak freely about it, we are adult after all.
       But once a vote/result has been made, this should be honoured.
       If not what do we make it; best of 3, best of 5, best of 7
       perhaps, maybe best of 33? It all gets a bit silly and what’s
       the point of a fair vote/game if we don’t stick to the end
       result. I wonder had it been the other way round, would that
       side who argue then still feel the same way about a
       revote/rematch? Then would that be fair?
       I just feel it’s very toys out of pram stuff.
       #Post#: 9071--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: October 22, 2018, 3:26 pm
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       Hmm yes let's entirely ignore the reasons why people might be
       unhappy about this beyond "they lost the vote" and just compare
       it to the result of a sporting contest, that's not incredibly
       asinine or anything.
       Should a vote be honoured when the winning side has repeatedly
       broken the law? Or when they campaign on promises they have zero
       intention of sticking to? Or when they campaign for something
       and then are exposed for having literally no clue on how to
       actually implement it, despite it being the single most
       important political, economic, and social event to hit this
       country since the last world war?
       Gosh no, let's just go "haha you lost" and put our fingers in
       our ears instead. That's the adult response to this cluster.
       People are absolutely right to be angry about this. And if you
       support Brexit, you should be angry too, because the people who
       promised you Brexit are utterly clueless chancers who are making
       an absolute disaster of it.
       #Post#: 9072--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: 
       Date: October 22, 2018, 3:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Hmm yes let's entirely ignore the reasons why people might be
       unhappy about this beyond "they lost the vote" and just compare
       it to the result of a sporting contest, that's not incredibly
       asinine or anything.
       >
       > Should a vote be honoured when the winning side has repeatedly
       broken the law? Or when they campaign on promises they have zero
       intention of sticking to? Or when they campaign for something
       and then are exposed for having literally no clue on how to
       actually implement it, despite it being the single most
       important political, economic, and social event to hit this
       country since the last world war?
       >
       > Gosh no, let's just go "haha you lost" and put our fingers in
       our ears instead. That's the adult response to this cluster.
       >
       > People are absolutely right to be angry about this. And if you
       support Brexit, you should be angry too, because the people who
       promised you Brexit are utterly clueless chancers who are making
       an absolute disaster of it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Look at the truth, our PM was a remainer and most of the people
       who wanted to deliver brexit aren’t allowed anywhere near it
       ironically. I’m not angry nor will I be, I know what I voted
       for. I’m not going “haha you lost”. Think your missing the point
       sir. I never said it’s not ok for people not to be angry, you
       can be what you want to be. Both sides told lies, both sides
       told truths. Look at Osborn for example. Anyway, let’s agree to
       disagree, spare me the argument. Some people do have a clue,
       just those people and their solutions aren’t being utilised by
       the PM etc due to party interests. Either way, there will always
       be people unhappy no matter what. There’s no pleasing everyone.
       That’s one in many ways why we vote.
       #Post#: 9076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: October 22, 2018, 4:31 pm
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       It was only meant as a light-hearted topical quip!
       #Post#: 9077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: Everyone’s a Quinner
       Date: October 22, 2018, 4:36 pm
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       To everybody on this post who may be concerned. Having PM’d
       Jammy I’d thought I’d follow up on here..
       Please do not feel like I am goading. I can promise you that’s
       not my intentions in the slightest. And I completely agree a
       game and a serious vote are completely two different things. We
       all have a right to be angry, happy or however we feel and as
       such have a right to speak freely. I completely respect any and
       every view, whether I agree or disagree with them.
       I wouldn’t want you to read into my post as though I’m on the
       offensive or that I am in an aggressive tone, I am not. There is
       an empthatic, understanding, respectful voice in my words on a
       post that isn’t there to see and I again apologise if it feels
       as though I’m out to goad etc.
       Anyway, we all support Quins, we all want what’s best for our
       futures!
       Many thanks and regards,
       EaQ
       *Cue for The Stoop announcer to dust off and play the John
       Lennon - Give Peace a Chance sound bite button from some years
       ago*
       #Post#: 9094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: October 23, 2018, 6:42 am
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       --- Quote from: Everyone’s a Quinner link ---
       >
       > [quote author=JammyGit link=topic=595.msg9071#msg9071
       date=1540239988]
       > Hmm yes let's entirely ignore the reasons why people might be
       unhappy about this beyond "they lost the vote" and just compare
       it to the result of a sporting contest, that's not incredibly
       asinine or anything.
       >
       > Should a vote be honoured when the winning side has repeatedly
       broken the law? Or when they campaign on promises they have zero
       intention of sticking to? Or when they campaign for something
       and then are exposed for having literally no clue on how to
       actually implement it, despite it being the single most
       important political, economic, and social event to hit this
       country since the last world war?
       >
       > Gosh no, let's just go "haha you lost" and put our fingers in
       our ears instead. That's the adult response to this cluster.
       >
       > People are absolutely right to be angry about this. And if you
       support Brexit, you should be angry too, because the people who
       promised you Brexit are utterly clueless chancers who are making
       an absolute disaster of it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Look at the truth, our PM was a remainer and most of the people
       who wanted to deliver brexit aren’t allowed anywhere near it
       ironically. I’m not angry nor will I be, I know what I voted
       for. I’m not going “haha you lost”. Think your missing the point
       sir. I never said it’s not ok for people not to be angry, you
       can be what you want to be. Both sides told lies, both sides
       told truths. Look at Osborn for example. Anyway, let’s agree to
       disagree, spare me the argument. Some people do have a clue,
       just those people and their solutions aren’t being utilised by
       the PM etc due to party interests. Either way, there will always
       be people unhappy no matter what. There’s no pleasing everyone.
       That’s one in many ways why we vote.
       [/quote]
       Your latest post does explain your thoughts, so I too, don't
       want to remoan but:-
       "most of the people who wanted to deliver brexit aren’t allowed
       anywhere near it..." - excepting that Davis, Boris and Gove got
       some top 3 jobs in her cabinet!
       "Both sides told lies, both sides told truths" - one side told
       many lies for many years, both sides made unreasonable forecasts
       of what would/might happen next
       Time for clues is over - answers needed now, with actions to
       follow swiftly - and neither party has the confidence to go one
       way or the other as the issue is so divisive as it was not
       discussed properly before the vote, and the referendum question
       was too ambiguous.
       As for Bruce Craig - he's just an acerbic rug
       #Post#: 9113--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bruce Craig demands match with Toulouse be replayed
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: October 23, 2018, 9:34 am
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       Back to the topic at hand, EPCR have addressed the question
  HTML https://www.epcrugby.com/2018/10/23/epcr-statement-bath-rugby-v-toulouse/<br
       />regarding whether the whistle was blown early.
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