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       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: Kermitpower
       Date: April 30, 2023, 2:16 am
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       That looks like an amazing achievement in isolation, but is it
       actually healthy for the women's game overall, given the utter
       devastation that England France are able to wreak against the
       other participants?
       Might it not make sense for World Rugby to figure out some sort
       of central funding to level the playing field a bit?
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       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: April 30, 2023, 3:56 am
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       Was it bad for men's rugby when no-one could live with the All
       Blacks or the Boks at the start of professional rugby? And the
       NH teams couldn't live with Australia.
       I appreciate what you're asking, KP, but I don't feel it is more
       than a short term problem. I would think WR would be hoping
       individual countries will up their investment in an attempt to
       level the playing field rather than sit back and expect someone
       else to do the work for them. And for England and France, what
       they are demonstrating is what you can do if you put the
       resources into the game.  These countries have made significant
       commitment of resources and are reaping the rewards.
       #Post#: 108344--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: April 30, 2023, 4:11 am
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       Exactly DOK. Ireland women got the wooden spoon yet we’re told
       their setup in the men’s game is exemplary. Any reason why they
       couldn’t do the same for the women’s game?
       #Post#: 108346--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: April 30, 2023, 4:27 am
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       --- Quote from: A222Quin link ---
       >
       > Exactly DOK. Ireland women got the wooden spoon yet we’re told
       their setup in the men’s game is exemplary. Any reason why they
       couldn’t do the same for the women’s game?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Money. When DOK says "resource" he means "money" but he is too
       polite to actually say it. 🙂
       It's funny how (nearly) everyone moans about Wray etc. pumping
       money into Sarries, for instance, and inflating wages forcing
       others to keep up or fall by the wayside. Supporters complaining
       that the business model is broken because club rugby can't fund
       itself. Yet that's pretty much the model being proposed for
       women's rugby.
       4,000 people watched Scotland; another record crowd. 3,200
       watched Italy; whether this was a record crowd wasn't mentioned.
       #Post#: 108347--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: April 30, 2023, 4:34 am
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       It was an excellent afternoon, a great crowd, great atmosphere,
       great family feel. None of the usual corporate hospitality types
       who have zero interest in the game.
       A Mexican wave or 3 which some find annoying but I just ignore.
       It took probably an hour and a half to clear the stadium as the
       players were still out signing autographs and having photos
       taken.
       I hope the take two women's 6 nations games there next season.
       #Post#: 108349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: April 30, 2023, 6:30 am
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       There was mention from Sara Orchard during the build up of a new
       competition to take place annually, called WXV
  HTML https://www.world.rugby/tournaments/wxv.
       While the format is a
       little convoluted, it should give the chance for the T2 & T3
       teams aiming to take part in the next World Cup a chance to get
       some meaningful competition & development on a regular basis.
       #Post#: 108350--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: April 30, 2023, 6:35 am
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       --- Quote from: Kermitpower link ---
       >
       > That looks like an amazing achievement in isolation, but is it
       actually healthy for the women's game overall, given the utter
       devastation that England France are able to wreak against the
       other participants?
       >
       > Might it not make sense for World Rugby to figure out some
       sort of central funding to level the playing field a bit?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The scorelines have been one sided, but the matches have had
       periods of real competition.
       Italy pushed France very close, and Wales were dominant for the
       first 25 minutes against England. Greater fitness was decisive
       in the end, but more time training as pros will fix that in time
       #Post#: 108359--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: BedfordshireBoy
       Date: April 30, 2023, 4:16 pm
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       There was a serious medical incident in Block L2/L3 (CPR,
       Defibrillator, Oxygen) towards the end of the first half,
       anybody nearby, I think they revived the guy and hopefully he is
       now recovered.
       #Post#: 108363--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: Harleys Evil Step Mum
       Date: May 1, 2023, 3:07 am
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       --- Quote from: BedfordshireBoy link ---
       >
       > There was a serious medical incident in Block L2/L3 (CPR,
       Defibrillator, Oxygen) towards the end of the first half,
       anybody nearby, I think they revived the guy and hopefully he is
       now recovered.
       >
       > Good news, he was conscious in hospital and talking!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 108368--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT. Red Roses v France Final
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: May 1, 2023, 7:20 am
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       Thr Honorary stewards, St John's and the response teams involved
       did a great job.
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