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       #Post#: 108937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: May 17, 2023, 11:36 am
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       --- Quote from: Mayor West link ---
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       > I haven’t done the maths but have they thought that if Irish
       go and with another game fewer, the club may be better off
       guaranteeing ticket sales through memberships. Each game becomes
       more expensive for members the fewer their money is spread over.
       Maybe they think people won’t realise that being a season ticket
       holder that each game is costing you say £40, but you could buy
       tickets individually at £35. If you see what I mean.
       >
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       That's assuming that match ticket prices don't change as well?
       #Post#: 108940--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: May 17, 2023, 1:47 pm
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       A new season ticket holder in gold on a DD is now paying £113
       per ticket if just going to Premiership games
       If renewing it’s still £110 per game if just going to prem
       Touch line is £61.00 per game at £555 and that for a renewal
       So fair play to the club for selling it in these numbers
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       #Post#: 108941--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: Harleys Evil Step Mum
       Date: May 17, 2023, 1:59 pm
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       WOW! Those per match figures are quite staggering.......
       #Post#: 108946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: cstandhaft@btinternet.com
       Date: May 18, 2023, 1:42 am
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       Listening to commentators on the TV it feels like quins over the
       last few seasons have managed to create a product that doesn't
       depend on us winning either the premiership, cup or even the
       game you are watching. How long this would last if we end up mid
       table every season. Winning the prem definitely kicked it off
       with the stunning comebacks, I guess the question is would you
       rather support an entertaining team or one that wins
       titles...Ironically looking back at times quins didn't do either
       ;)
       #Post#: 108947--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: dinsdale
       Date: May 18, 2023, 2:54 am
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       --- Quote from: col01 link ---
       >
       > Listening to commentators on the TV it feels like quins over
       the last few seasons have managed to create a product that
       doesn't depend on us winning either the premiership, cup or even
       the game you are watching. How long this would last if we end up
       mid table every season. Winning the prem definitely kicked it
       off with the stunning comebacks, I guess the question is would
       you rather support an entertaining team or one that wins
       titles...Ironically looking back at times quins didn't do either
       ;)
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mark Evans said years back that attendance and ST sales had very
       little to do with on pitch performance.
       I like the fact that Quins try to play entertaining rugby.  Two
       Premiership titles says that at least occasionally it works!
       #Post#: 108949--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: May 18, 2023, 4:00 am
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       --- Quote from: col01 link ---
       >
       > Listening to commentators on the TV it feels like quins over
       the last few seasons have managed to create a product that
       doesn't depend on us winning either the premiership, cup or even
       the game you are watching. How long this would last if we end up
       mid table every season. Winning the prem definitely kicked it
       off with the stunning comebacks, I guess the question is would
       you rather support an entertaining team or one that wins
       titles...Ironically looking back at times quins didn't do either
       ;)
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Winning is not a necessary condition for a loyal fanbase. Wins
       and trophies help to grow the base, but you only have to look at
       Bath or Gloucester to see that fans will be loyal even after
       long periods of underperformance. And a lot of fans want a good
       day out and aren't as emotionally committed to whether their
       team win or lose than a lot of us are.
       Quins offers a friendly environment, recognisable faces and
       games that generally feature one or both of a lot of scoring or
       a close finish. There's also limited local competition if you
       want to watch top flight rugby - London Irish might get there,
       but their squad is less well known, and the atmosphere is quite
       different. Saracens offer more wins, but their stadium is harder
       to get to and their win record gets a bit processional after a
       while.
       #Post#: 108950--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: May 18, 2023, 4:23 am
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       --- Quote from: dinsdale link ---
       >
       > Mark Evans said years back that attendance and ST sales had
       very little to do with on pitch performance.
       >
       > I like the fact that Quins try to play entertaining rugby.
       Two Premiership titles says that at least occasionally it works!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Remember that we've won as many Premiership titles as Exeter,
       who are held up as an exemplar by many, & 1 more than Saints ,
       who are also well-regarded.
       #Post#: 108952--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: May 18, 2023, 4:43 am
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       Would love to know the churn here - how many are renewals vs new
       customers and how has that changed?
       #Post#: 108954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: May 18, 2023, 4:53 am
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       Plus, how many are old ST holders returning?
       #Post#: 108956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Season ticket sales
   DIR By: dinsdale
       Date: May 18, 2023, 6:20 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Would love to know the churn here - how many are renewals vs
       new customers and how has that changed?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       In the past I think an average of 20% PA has been quoted?  If
       Quins put out figures in a few months time saying how long the
       waiting list is, then assume about the same.  If they keep quiet
       about it then assume they have dug deep in to the waiting list
       to guarantee revenue.
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