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       #Post#: 108106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: April 23, 2023, 10:11 am
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       To be fair to the club, the poor attendance would have been in
       part due to the big game being postponed, so they were promoting
       that when normally they'd be fully focussed on bsko. Poor league
       form probably doesn't help either, in terms of flogging tickets
       in the couple of weeks before the game.
       I'd rather we didn't have it, but I'd rather have BG and BSKO
       then see the club go the way of Worcester and Wasps.
       Most of all though I'd like to see the team start playing
       consistently well again
       #Post#: 108107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Bucksquin
       Date: April 23, 2023, 11:04 am
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
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       > We are currently selling out games at the Stoop, so very
       little if any ticket availability
       > I get these games bring in new support , but at what cost?
       >
       > Wasn’t that long ago it was said you need 50k to break even
       then after that it’s profit, great and we need the money, if
       that’s still the case the club lost money
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Maybe the point of "bringing in all these new fans" is to
       replace the season ticket holders who feel they've been priced
       out?
       #Post#: 108108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: April 23, 2023, 11:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
       >
       > Maybe the point of "bringing in all these new fans" is to
       replace the season ticket holders who feel they've been priced
       out?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Think there’s a lot to your point
       A single match ticket ( has been) more expensive than a season
       ticket for the same game
       We always get told at state of play that the ST deal is almost
       too good
       Maybe the desire is to get more buying individual tickets
       #Post#: 108118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: April 23, 2023, 4:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: jwl link ---
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       > "First Quins game I have been to for a while"
       >
       > Any chance of keeping that up?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you.
       Yes, I am going to try to attend more frequently.
       Nice of you to take the trouble to encourage me.
       #Post#: 108125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: April 24, 2023, 2:54 am
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
       >
       > Think there’s a lot to your point
       > A single match ticket ( has been) more expensive than a season
       ticket for the same game
       > We always get told at state of play that the ST deal is almost
       too good
       > Maybe the desire is to get more buying individual tickets
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think this is their aim. They certainly want to sell ST's but
       the real customer they want are the visitors/work outing type
       crowd as they are more likely to spend on things a ST might not
       feel the need to. I don't know the demographic data, but I
       imagine most ST holders live a fairly close commute to the Stoop
       so they are more likely to eat before they come out and have a
       few beers at home if at all rather than spend in the ground.
       #Post#: 108126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: April 24, 2023, 3:10 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > I think this is their aim. They certainly want to sell ST's
       but the real customer they want are the visitors/work outing
       type crowd as they are more likely to spend on things a ST might
       not feel the need to. I don't know the demographic data, but I
       imagine most ST holders live a fairly close commute to the Stoop
       so they are more likely to eat before they come out and have a
       few beers at home if at all rather than spend in the ground.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure that applies to the STs in our group.
       As we all live within an easy walk/bus ride to the Stoop, we all
       tend to meet up and have a few beers. I am not a great one for
       sitting at home on my own with a can of Special Brew and some
       Pot Noodles.
       I think that the people that tend to come to the ground for the
       game and then go straight afterwards tends to be the guys who
       drive.
       #Post#: 108127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: April 24, 2023, 3:15 am
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
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       > And that sums it up, for some  the rugby is the most important
       thing, for others it’s a social event
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Isn't that the most important thing about rugby though?
       Watch a tough game on the pitch as rivals and then all meet as
       one and socialise afterwards.
       The French call it the "Third Half".
       The first and second halves are fought on the pitch. But they
       are merely the warm up to the most important half in the bar
       afterwards.
       Maybe I am just an old f4rt that is still stuck in the amateur
       era. But, I still enjoy this approach to the game.
       #Post#: 108133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: April 24, 2023, 4:39 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
       >
       > Not sure that applies to the STs in our group.
       > As we all live within an easy walk/bus ride to the Stoop, we
       all tend to meet up and have a few beers. I am not a great one
       for sitting at home on my own with a can of Special Brew and
       some Pot Noodles.
       > I think that the people that tend to come to the ground for
       the game and then go straight afterwards tends to be the guys
       who drive.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Whether we drive or come by bus/train we're always in and out of
       the Stoop for the game. There's just far more choice and quality
       of food/drink elsewhere, even within walking distance.
       #Post#: 108141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Mr_B
       Date: April 24, 2023, 6:00 am
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       my personal view, I hate games at the big stoop for Quins, I can
       never replicate the excellent seats we have at the little stoop
       or the atmosphere, the constant up and down of those who just
       want to drink or cant control their bladders as they had too
       many pints. Missed several key moment due to the constant
       standing up in front to let someone out for a toilet break and
       to refuel with more beer. I have seats on the half way line west
       stand 6 rows in, I was again put about 10 yards from the touch
       line and have to watch the video screen for anything happening
       up the other end east side. I dont mind it for the xmas game but
       summer now as well. I pay extra for great tickets at the stoop
       and now have two games with rubbish seats and rugby experience.
       Add in the friday night games that I struggle to make and it
       gets to the point it's just not worth the cost. I get why they
       do it but please just do the xmas game.
       #Post#: 108144--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: April 24, 2023, 6:43 am
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       Club has emailed everyone a survey regarding the BSKO so check
       your inbox if you want to get opinions across
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