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       #Post#: 108076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Hamptonquin
       Date: April 23, 2023, 4:22 am
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       Personal perspective. I do like the Big Game at Christmas but
       missed the Summer KO last year so wasn’t sure whether I’d enjoy
       it. Overall it worked for me. I thought the stadium was a bit
       empty so the atmosphere was flat for periods but what sounded
       like a pretty big Bath contingent certainly made their presence
       felt which was good. My wife had cider which she said was good.
       I had a pint of Twickenham ale which was hardly drinkable. Our
       seats in the east stand were great - close to halfway in the
       lower tier so great view of the action. The rugby was
       entertaining (shame about the result). The Kaiser Chiefs were
       good. Didn’t stay for Massoake. But if I was asked to choose
       between this and Stoop for an important end of season home game
       I would choose the Stoop every time.
       #Post#: 108077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: April 23, 2023, 4:35 am
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       First Quins game I have been to for a while - Stoop or HQ.
       Band? No, I don't need or want a band. So, I am in a minority?
       Shrug. I still don't want a band, it just makes me less likely
       to go next time.
       Noisy. Why does everyone on the PA have to shout?
       Seat in the North Middle. Long way from the action unless it's
       right down my end.
       Everything overpriced. I took a bacon sandwich with me. Very
       nice, thank you.
       Will I go again? HQ - probably not. Stoop - probably.
       #Post#: 108078--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: April 23, 2023, 4:54 am
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       It starts with the fact most of you are missing the point of the
       event. Was it to win? Would have been nice, but that's not it!
       To give those who generally attend The Stoop a good day out?
       Well, the club does its best, but that's not it. To make a
       shedload of money of 40,000 people for tickets? All money is
       more than welcome,  but that's not it.To showcase our rugby,
       especially our brand of rugby, in front of a large number of
       neutral spectators who don't currently go to The Stoop but
       certainly could geographically? That, for me, is the point of
       the exercise. And we provided that in spades. Lovely running
       rugby from both sides, (thanks Bath). A  bucketful of tries. A
       lead that changed over and over. .
       You doubt me? How many Mexican bloody waves did we have to
       endure?
       #Post#: 108080--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: April 23, 2023, 5:07 am
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       I agree DOK.
       Although we lost, one of our crowd said that he is going to try
       for a session ticket for next season.
       Another of our crowd is also considering it.
       Winning isn't everything.
       Watching some great tries being scored (by both sides) makes it
       a good event. Add to this the extra stuff - example the bands
       etc, and it looks appealing.
       If it was just about winning, then I wouldn't be a member at
       Richmond.
       If you just want 80 minutes of rugby with no razzamataz,
       consider getting a membership at London Scottish. You get to
       watch 6 or so Quins players every week and it costs
       significantly less.
       But, I think that after a couple of seasons of watching them,
       you may remember why you enjoy supporting Quins.
       #Post#: 108082--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: April 23, 2023, 5:15 am
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       Each to their own but I cannot get my head around this.  Winning
       might not be everything but it’s the most important thing.  I
       accept we play these showcase games to bring money in but all
       yesterday did is show the neutral that Bath play good rugby as
       well - and are better at it.  Performance first, experience
       second in my book.
       #Post#: 108085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: April 23, 2023, 5:26 am
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       Winning isn't everything, but trying to win is arguably
       everything. I'm sure the team is "trying" to win every time they
       play but I don't think they put as much effort into trying as
       the should do on too many occasions.
       The team seem to have lost the will to do what's required when
       they don't have the ball.
       I won't say I think it's an easy fix but I think it's an issue
       of mentality rather than of talent.
       #Post#: 108094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: April 23, 2023, 6:57 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
       >
       > Winning isn't everything, but trying to win is arguably
       everything. I'm sure the team is "trying" to win every time they
       play but I don't think they put as much effort into trying as
       the should do on too many occasions.
       >
       > The team seem to have lost the will to do what's required when
       they don't have the ball.
       >
       > I won't say I think it's an easy fix but I think it's an issue
       of mentality rather than of talent.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think things have become too comfortable, and I think most
       take their position in the team for granted. There isn’t enough
       proper quality where it counts to keep certain squad members on
       their toes, as the drop off in quality between first XV and
       their replacement is almost championship level (DC for Lewis as
       an example). Baxter needs another season as a bit soft for a lad
       of his size. Backrow we haven’t got a proper 6 which dosent
       help.
       I don’t expect any major changes. Matson and the coaching set up
       have been here long enough now and I don’t see a game plan or
       what they are trying to achieve, other than trying to live off
       the back of the “entertainers” type vibe, which is fine, but we
       haven’t got a defence to back to up.
       #Post#: 108096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: Quinspirational
       Date: April 23, 2023, 7:11 am
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       I always love the big game / BSKO and look forward to a day out
       travelling up from the south coast , a group of 10 of us went
       with 3 of the group having never been to a rugby match before ,
       the 3 are now sold on rugby and will be returning as Quins fans
       next season. It was just unfortunate that the 2 games were so
       close to each and hopefully back to normal next year. Quins have
       just got 3 new fans and what a great day out apart from the
       result.
       #Post#: 108097--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: April 23, 2023, 7:18 am
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       We are currently selling out games at the Stoop, so very little
       if any ticket availability
       I get these games bring in new support , but at what cost?
       Wasn’t that long ago it was said you need 50k to break even then
       after that it’s profit, great and we need the money, if that’s
       still the case the club lost money
       #Post#: 108098--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vanity event fatigue
   DIR By: championes
       Date: April 23, 2023, 7:23 am
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       --- Quote from: SiB link ---
       >
       > And that sums it up, for some  the rugby is the most important
       thing, for others it’s a social event
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well between us our group have 65 years as season ticket holders
       so that’s not the case for us, it’s both. But we brought a load
       of people who would otherwise not have thought to go to a quins
       match.
       22 of us with 9 kids aged between 5 and 11.
       Rugby can’t sell any more tickets to older men who already like
       rugby so it’s got to try something.
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