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#Post#: 106626--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: East Sussex Chris
Date: March 29, 2023, 7:13 am
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He's repeatedly taken pops at Smith, Evans, Care, Brown - all
club legends which is no coincidence - and has referred to our
CEO as "Quins Putin" and "Rishi Sunak's clone". It is incredibly
difficult to find posts where he is actually positive about the
club in general, let alone about individuals, despite many
stellar performances by our top players over the past few years.
Please show me the posts this is said as if I said this fair
enough , if as I believe I didn't say about Putin and Sunak
then be careful what you say as it can be libellous
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Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: never sleep
Date: March 29, 2023, 7:13 am
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--- Quote from: East Sussex Chris link ---
>
> I am not saying anything specific, other than Marcus doesn't
appear to be improving and its probably down to the fact that
his existing Mentor / Coach has been with him for a long time
now, and perhaps its time for a change in order for him to
experiment with new ideas and approaches. There is a shelf life
for every managerial / coaching combination at a club as
sporting history shows, its only in rare and exceptional
circumstances that this goes on much beyond 4/5 years.
>
>
>
--- End Quote ---
So, you have now changed your mind again and are now agreeing
with my earlier summary post? (i.e. "Evans must Go")
Make up your mind - are you suggesting the Marcus leave or Evans
leave?
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Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: never sleep
Date: March 29, 2023, 7:15 am
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Quote from: East Sussex Chris on Thursday 14-Apr-2022, 09:13*
"I'm a bit baffled by Richie Sunaks clone"
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Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: March 29, 2023, 7:30 am
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--- Quote from: East Sussex Chris link ---
>
> He's repeatedly taken pops at Smith, Evans, Care, Brown - all
club legends which is no coincidence - and has referred to our
CEO as "Quins Putin" and "Rishi Sunak's clone". It is incredibly
difficult to find posts where he is actually positive about the
club in general, let alone about individuals, despite many
stellar performances by our top players over the past few years.
>
>
> Please show me the posts this is said as if I said this fair
enough , if as I believe I didn't say about Putin and Sunak
then be careful what you say as it can be libellous
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Libellous - cop on!
Here's you:
HTML https://comeallwithin.createaforum.com/general-discussion/harlequins-state-of-play/msg87437/#msg87437
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> I wish people would stop believing Quins Putin and start
Challenging him.
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HTML https://comeallwithin.createaforum.com/general-discussion/ceo-letter-ahead-of-today's-season-ticket-price-reveal/msg88534/#msg88534
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> I'm a bit baffled by Richie Sunaks clone, where does he expect
people to find the money from, costs can't have gone up that
much as the Salary Cap reduction must have made a big
difference.
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It is incredibly difficult to find posts where you aren't
slagging off the club and its most popular players. No-one
should give a fig what you think about Smith because you've only
ever called for him to leave the club and never seem to have
rated him judging by your years of posts. There are opposition
fans who hate Quins who have posted more public praise for Smith
than you have.
Absolute joke of a poster.
#Post#: 106633--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: March 29, 2023, 8:08 am
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Well, fair enough in that I don't pay attention to posters I've
barely noticed but I also don't agree that the op was
inflammatory enough to warrant ad hominem responses particularly
as the initial responses were genuine and no-one appeared to be
wound up.
#Post#: 106634--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: Quinky
Date: March 29, 2023, 8:22 am
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--- Quote from: East Sussex Chris link ---
>
> I am not saying anything specific, other than Marcus doesn't
appear to be improving and its probably down to the fact that
his existing Mentor / Coach has been with him for a long time
now, and perhaps its time for a change in order for him to
experiment with new ideas and approaches. There is a shelf life
for every managerial / coaching combination at a club as
sporting history shows, its only in rare and exceptional
circumstances that this goes on much beyond 4/5 years.
>
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Rather than ask you to put together a lengthy post, can you say
which Quins players you think are good, and how they've improved
in the past two years?
#Post#: 106644--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: March 29, 2023, 9:59 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
>
> Well, fair enough in that I don't pay attention to posters
I've barely noticed but I also don't agree that the op was
inflammatory enough to warrant ad hominem responses particularly
as the initial responses were genuine and no-one appeared to be
wound up.
>
--- End Quote ---
That's why context matters.
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Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: March 29, 2023, 10:41 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> That's why context matters.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sorry but that's fatuous. You and a few others got triggered
because of who posted it and because you were unhappy with their
previous posts.
As The Kid said,
--- Quote ---
> Original post is clearly a wind up but this is a debate we
have round the dinner table all the time and I think is a valid
question...
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 106652--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: SunburyQuin
Date: March 29, 2023, 11:07 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
>
> Rather than ask you to put together a lengthy post, can you
say which Quins players you think are good, and how they've
improved in the past two years?
>
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I'll have a go. Rating +3, +2, +1, 0 (+3 = vast
improvement), (+2 = significant), (+1 = slight improvement),
(0=neutral)
Kenningham +3 (allowing for injury)
Lamb +2
Hammond +2
Danny +1
Evans +2
Beard +2
David +3
Chisholm 0
W Evans +2
M Smith +2
Murley +3
Northmore +2 (allowing for injury)
Riley +2
Head +2
Musk +2
J Marler 0
J Walker +1
Andre E. +2
Lewies 0 (due to injury)
Green +1 (allowing for injury)
Baxter +3
I expect to get shot down in flames over the above, but I have
had a go ! PS: Joe Marchant & Wilco excluded due to leaving but
each would get a +2.
#Post#: 106653--------------------------------------------------
Re: Smith or Evans
DIR By: #495
Date: March 29, 2023, 11:09 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
>
> Sorry but that's fatuous. You and a few others got triggered
because of who posted it and because you were unhappy with their
previous posts.
>
> As The Kid said,
>
>
--- End Quote ---
I think it's pretty fair to point out the motives and
objectivity of a poster with a clear trend of messages along a
particular theme. Looks a bit rich to try and then deflect that
when proof was called for and then given. Triggered indeed....
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