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       #Post#: 106022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: dr_miles
       Date: March 19, 2023, 9:13 am
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       I don’t understand why Borthwick has picked Smith and Walker if
       he doesn’t trust them. If you’re down to 14 men for 40 minutes
       then surely you empty the bench?
       #Post#: 106024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: BedfordshireBoy
       Date: March 19, 2023, 9:20 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
       >
       > I checked score updates, and checked the team list, expecting
       to see Smith brought on at some point. When it didn't happen, I
       did wonder if Farrel had been superb...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No point in playing Smith at all with that game plan, he was
       well out of it, at least there won't be any blame heading his
       way.
       #Post#: 106027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: March 19, 2023, 9:55 am
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       Ireland were terrible, and were there to be put away.
       England, although they actually turned up, could not do it.
       Farrell had packed his kicking boots, and kicked three long
       distance penalties to keep England involved.
       But JvP and Owen do not create try scoring opportunities, so
       your back three are only there to field kicks.
       And when Ireland stopped dropping the ball, they ran through the
       England "defence" - albeit by then depleted.
       By the letter of the law, it was a clear red cad.
       If you do not want to be red carded, you must have your hips
       bent and your arms up all the time.
       If he had been in position to wrap, it might not have even been
       a penalty.
       But the right team won.
       In other news, Italy turned up and gave the Scots a fright,
       Tommy had a good game. A last gasp try put a gloss on the Scots
       performance.- 4-1 would have been a fairer result.
       Wales were blown away by France. If the All Blacks are not on
       the top of their game, France could beat Ireland in Paris final
       - the draw is looking horribly lopsided. I fear we could see 50
       point drubbings in each semi-final.
       #Post#: 106030--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: March 19, 2023, 10:19 am
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       Dombrandt didn't do enough. Gave away a stupid penalty, lost the
       ball on the floor once, made one or two nice carries but we
       didn't see anything special from him. Admittedly he did put in a
       try saver on the line but Farrell got all the plaudits for
       "helping" with that one.
       Dombrandt, rightly or wrongly, needed a big performance. Jack
       Willis provided one. Dombrandt didn't. And given that Borthwick
       seems determined to relive England's 2011 World Cup, I fully
       expect this negative approach to be what we're going with for
       the rest of the year, so we'll pick a trucker like Tom Willis or
       Billy and stick with that I expect.
       #Post#: 106034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: March 19, 2023, 11:21 am
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       --- Quote from: Camquin link ---
       >
       > Wales were blown away by France. If the All Blacks are not on
       the top of their game, France could beat Ireland in Paris final
       - the draw is looking horribly lopsided. I fear we could see 50
       point drubbings in each semi-final.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm wondering which team will meet South Africa in the final...
       🙂
       #Post#: 106040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: March 19, 2023, 1:08 pm
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       Had a really good weekend in Dublin despite the result. We
       travelled expecting England to be pumped but that was far from
       the case. Dublin was it’s usual hospitable self and the Irish
       fans we chatted to were delightful company on the whole. A world
       away from the social media sniping and nonsense that seems to
       peak around the 6 nations.
       I’ll watch the game back later but watching it live it was
       refreshing to see a vast improvement on my wasted afternoon at
       Twickenham last week. Still way off what it could be but they
       didn’t embarrass themselves. Don’t think Dommers has done enough
       to nail down his spot. Mako is still an empty shirt for me,
       Ribbans put in a proper shift, Slade was anonymous.
       #Post#: 106076--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: March 20, 2023, 7:53 am
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       It's pretty depressing that a lot of fans are saying England
       played really well. We were not awful, like we were last week.
       But it's a stretch to say we were good.
       No ambition at all. 10 man rugby, hoping to bully / bore the
       other team to death. It might work against some teams but not
       the best ones.
       While Farrell was better than he has been, and actually got his
       kicks, did he ignite the backline at all? No. I guess it depends
       what people want from their 10. Do you want them to create
       something or just marshall a very conservative gameplan
       effectively.
       Genge has been disappointing this 6 nations, and Sinckler too.
       Slade has been anonymous. Not sure why Watson kept getting
       picked.
       Dombrandt didn't seem to pick the clever lines that makes him
       stand out for Quins. Not sure if that's because there were no
       opportunities or just because he can't do it at that level. He
       is not a "bosh" style no 8 like Billy, so not sure how suited he
       is to the current gameplan.
       #Post#: 106077--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: March 20, 2023, 8:18 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
       >
       > It's pretty depressing that a lot of fans are saying England
       played really well. We were not awful, like we were last week.
       But it's a stretch to say we were good.
       >
       > No ambition at all. 10 man rugby, hoping to bully / bore the
       other team to death. It might work against some teams but not
       the best ones.
       >
       > While Farrell was better than he has been, and actually got
       his kicks, did he ignite the backline at all? No. I guess it
       depends what people want from their 10. Do you want them to
       create something or just marshall a very conservative gameplan
       effectively.
       >
       > Genge has been disappointing this 6 nations, and Sinckler too.
       Slade has been anonymous. Not sure why Watson kept getting
       picked.
       >
       > Dombrandt didn't seem to pick the clever lines that makes him
       stand out for Quins. Not sure if that's because there were no
       opportunities or just because he can't do it at that level. He
       is not a "bosh" style no 8 like Billy, so not sure how suited he
       is to the current gameplan.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd have Will Stuart starting the RWC instead of Sink. He was
       excellent in Oz, so if he can prove his fitness he is a shoe in.
       Kyle would be a good off bench option for sure.
       Alex I think will be lucky to make the RWC squad. Mercer I think
       will be hard to ignore, and I can imagine EJ going for a hybrid
       player who can cover 8 if needed, IE having Ludlam in the squad.
       I'd like to see both Ribbans and Chessum as the second row.
       Itoje has been living off his achievement 2/3 years ago for
       quite some time now
       #Post#: 106079--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: oakhaven
       Date: March 20, 2023, 9:57 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > and I can imagine EJ going for a hybrid player who can cover 8
       if needed
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's amazing the RFU are still allowing him to pick our World
       Cup squad!
       #Post#: 106080--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Missed the games yesterday...
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: March 20, 2023, 9:59 am
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       I actually thought that Irelands 2nd try was
       Dommers-esque....coming off the inside shoulder and straight
       through the gap. Just sad England can't create like that.
       Honestly bring all of those mentioned above in and leave Smith,
       Dommers etc at home. If that's the game plan, why taint them
       with the stigma? Midfield is anonymous, too much kicking and
       back 3 there to watch the oppo run tries in. What was the point
       in picking Arundel without Marcus and March in there? Tuilagi
       has never been able to pass so playing outside him is another
       waste.
       Forwards were much better, as expected and we will probably end
       up in a semi final at the WC but not because of a successful
       gameplan, because we are slightly less mediocre than the rest of
       the mediocre teams and the draw is kind. If we get past
       Argentina, that is.
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