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#Post#: 105929--------------------------------------------------
Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: SiB
Date: March 17, 2023, 12:38 pm
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Are match day tickets going up by 20% or is it just season
tickets?
Doesn’t appear to be answered anywhere
#Post#: 105930--------------------------------------------------
Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: DOK
Date: March 17, 2023, 12:52 pm
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That 2nd graph. Looks at our renewal price versus other clubs.
Only works if that's the other clubs renewal price, not our
renewal versus their full price.
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Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: Surbiton Quin
Date: March 17, 2023, 1:33 pm
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For Jammy Git
The relevance of SW London is because it is where Quins are
based and therefore local competitors are relevant.
Toulouse is probably cheaper, the Riverside is cheaper than
Lords, Plumpton is cheaper than Ascot.
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Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: March 17, 2023, 2:44 pm
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--- Quote from: Surbiton Quin link ---
>
> For Jammy Git
>
> The relevance of SW London is because it is where Quins are
based and therefore local competitors are relevant.
>
> Toulouse is probably cheaper, the Riverside is cheaper than
Lords, Plumpton is cheaper than Ascot.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
All of the places they've listed are entirely reasonable to get
to for an afternoon or evening of sport if you live in London.
Including the Stoop. Unless you think that Quins fans are all
your neighbours. For professional sport in London, those _are_
the competition. Not Durham or Toulouse.
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Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 17, 2023, 2:45 pm
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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> I've not read the email yet but I can't believe all this
moaning. Surely you know the club are struggling and buying a
season ticket is a voluntary thing, after all! And there are
2,500 people desperate to spend as much as they can on your
tickets! 😂😂
>
--- End Quote ---
This is it. Cheap seats for prem matches seem to be in the order
of 55 quid, which to me sounds astronomical.
A 35% hike would push this up to 70 quid - which is just
ridiculous.
I would have thought 30-35 quid would be more sensible.
#Post#: 105935--------------------------------------------------
Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 17, 2023, 2:47 pm
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--- Quote from: HamptonCourtJester link ---
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> Said on the other thread, its not the cost for me. Even with
losing the 2 games and a bit of a price increase its still great
value for money (Im Jester though so cant speak for you lot in
the half way line seats).
>
> For me its the fixture spread. Its very sad how many times I
have been to the Stoop this season on a Saturday afternoon. Sat
3pm is the pinnacle day and time for me. I don't mind the odd
Friday and Sunday, where I can shuffle other commitments so I
can make those games, but it seems nearly every home fixture is
moved to Friday or Sunday, which I cannot do that often.
>
> Will pay for this year, but if that's to continue, then
someone on the waiting list can have my ticket next year
>
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Jester is now like 40 quid for a prem match. I don't see how
that can possibly be great value. It was great value when it was
15 quid.
#Post#: 105936--------------------------------------------------
Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 17, 2023, 2:55 pm
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Hang on - so the club has put out a graph showing we're the
second most expe sive at the top end and third most at the
bottom?
I really don't get how a rugby club who probably 95% of the
population have never heard of has the brass neck to compare
itself with a Premier league team whose top earner is probably
on more a week than any of our players are paid in a year.
#Post#: 105937--------------------------------------------------
Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 17, 2023, 3:01 pm
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--- Quote from: dr_miles link ---
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> The earning potential of this club through ticket sales is
limited. Rugby cannot be played at the same frequency as
football - it's not possible to play weekends and midweek. The
season is only a set number of weeks. The ground only holds so
many people.
>
> Football clubs play 20+ times per season at home. The larger
clubs who have been mentioned here have grounds 3 or 4 times the
size of the Stoop. And most importantly, they have massive
sources of external income - TV deals, sponsorships and
increasingly frequently billionaire owners.
>
> Everyone knows that rugby loses money and has done ever since
it turned professional, and there are very few ways to get it
onto a more stable footing. Putting up prices is unwelcome but
not a massive shock.
>
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Again though, that's not how things actually work. Market forces
dictate prices, not 'we have a crap business model'. Its all
very well a couple of years after winning, but the demand will
fall very quickly if performances don't improve.
The club dropped prices to rock bottom a decade ago for a
reason, and there's only so many times you can flog that horse.
To say that prices have gone up remarkably little when the
cheapest offering has gone up 450% in 10 years is just a
barefaced lie.
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Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: RodneyRegis
Date: March 17, 2023, 3:03 pm
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> In fairness, inflation means things today are ~165% of 2004
prices.
>
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Yes. And season ticket prices are what, 600%?
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Re: Membership renewal
DIR By: championes
Date: March 17, 2023, 3:05 pm
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--- Quote from: SiB link ---
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> Are match day tickets going up by 20% or is it just season
tickets?
> Doesn’t appear to be answered anywhere
>
--- End Quote ---
Yeah interesting thought. Gold seats for one match hit £70 last
season which made inviting mates who aren’t massively into it a
challenge for the first time.
They love beer, but not enough to spend £70 more than once a
season to sit near our group.
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