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       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: March 14, 2023, 3:13 am
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       Utility should not trump form, ever. Sometimes specialism can be
       a good thing, I'm not sure why everyone always wants a jack of
       all trades in the backs.
       Having said that, murley could certainly work on his kicking
       game if he wants caps.
       #Post#: 105651--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: March 14, 2023, 3:40 am
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       Having watched Watson's defense against France, he will be very
       lucky to keep his place. He needs to prove his worth to start,
       which Murley and OHC did with everything physically possible at
       their disposable. OHC didn't really take his chance but probably
       is still in with a shout, but nothing is lost giving Murley a
       go.
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       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: SiB
       Date: March 14, 2023, 5:34 pm
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       Both Collier and Murley sent home
       #Post#: 105712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: March 15, 2023, 11:44 am
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       The Times are saying Smithy has been dropped and Bore-kick has
       picked the handbrake at 10 with Tuilagi and Slade as centres.
       Good luck with that
  HTML https://twitter.com/TimesSport/status/1636037765782552579?cxt=HHwWhoC-ycHrr7QtAAAA
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       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: March 15, 2023, 6:31 pm
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       That's just Stephen Jones having a wet dream....
       #Post#: 105729--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: March 16, 2023, 2:55 am
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       --- Quote from: Man From LA link ---
       >
       > The Times are saying Smithy has been dropped and Bore-kick has
       picked the handbrake at 10 with Tuilagi and Slade as centres.
       Good luck with that
       >
       >
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       >
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       Telegraph has the same
       #Post#: 105730--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: March 16, 2023, 3:46 am
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       If that's true that's shocking. I think it's safe to say we can
       write off this RWC if this is SB's approach, and hope its an
       abysmal one too leading, to SB's resignation and then maybe,
       just maybe we can get someone in with some unbiased vision.
       #Post#: 105731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: March 16, 2023, 3:52 am
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       To be fair to Owen, SB will pick JvP at 9, so what ball that
       gets to Farrell swill be so glacial, that not a lot of
       retardation will be required.
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       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: March 16, 2023, 4:19 am
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       IF it's true - and I suspect it will be - then it will be
       interesting to see if Marcus is the only player culled from last
       week. There are other changes due to injusry, but will Borthwick
       stick with a load of underperformers (some repeat offenders)
       whilst dropping the one player that numerous pundits have said
       was one of the people making most effort?
       #Post#: 105736--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Collier called into England training camp
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: March 16, 2023, 4:34 am
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       I am finding myself increasingly disengaged with Borthwick's
       tactics, selections and leaks. I just don't get what he's trying
       to do, and I don't think Sinfield's defensive patterns are
       working.
       And I could even see some method in Eddie's pre-sacking plans.
       By the way, am I the only one who's not completely enamoured of
       Steward? Everyone seems to think he performs well because he
       doesn't drop the high balls like Daly, but between his
       relatively lack of agility and acceleration and the weaknesses
       in his positional play, he is not as secure at the back as an
       international full back needs to be, something that both
       Scotland and France exploited.
       Meanwhile, Marcus and Dommers are copping a lot of the flak for
       what went wrong - but from what I could see in the stadium,
       Dombrandt was getting pinged because whether in attack or
       defence he was often going into the breakdown without support,
       and Marcus hit more rucks than a flyhalf should ever be asked to
       hit.
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