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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: February 10, 2023, 6:20 am
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       > Plus Smith and Marchant...
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       where is the team? can't see on bbc
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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: TomBuckQuin
       Date: February 10, 2023, 6:28 am
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       > where is the team? can't see on bbc
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       Announced at 3pm today.
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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: February 10, 2023, 6:34 am
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       A leak!
  HTML https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/owen-farrell-handed-england-keys-29179888?_ga=2.131471047.933965024.1676032092-27303967.1676032091
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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: February 10, 2023, 7:13 am
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       If the leak is accurate, still not a bad team. I think Smith was
       always going to be the one to make way, considering he's not the
       captain (If SB wan't going to play both he and Faz).
       Marcus/Mitchell of the bench would be a great pairing, also
       bringing in Arundel off the bench could really add some danger
       against a tiring Italian defense. Will be interesting how the
       bench is though with the split, as accommodating Marcus who
       isn't a multi role player) makes things slightly more difficult.
       #Post#: 104074--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: February 10, 2023, 7:26 am
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       Having an outright 10 on the bench is pretty common.
       Of the starters, Farrell is 10 and 12. Lawrence 12 and 13. Slade
       12, 13, and a dash of 10 or 15 in an emergency. Malins 11, 14,
       15, with a dash of 10 in an emergency. OHC a wing. Steward a
       fullback and probably too slow for wing at this level but has
       plenty of experience there.
       So unless you want an emergency 10, you pick an outright 10 on
       the bench. Everything else is fine no matter who goes down, with
       wing the biggest issue, and given they obviously want Arundell
       to get game time, having him on the bench as well makes sense so
       that's covered anyway.
       Have a bench of Rodd, Walker, Cole, Isiekwe, Ribbans, Mitchell,
       Smith, Arundell, and you're good. The starting pack is a pretty
       fit and largely young bunch so no demands to take people off
       after 50 minutes. Isiekwe covers lock and back row, ditto
       Chessum. Ribbans the outright lock replacement. Willis to start
       and covers all 3 backrow positions, as does Ludlum to a lesser
       extent.
       Losing 2 backrowers would be a problem.
       #Post#: 104075--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: February 10, 2023, 9:06 am
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       So, the scenario is, Italy are 12 points up at 60 minutes and
       the backs can't get into the game. What do you do if you're
       Borthers?
       If you bring Smith on and move Farrell to 12, you know you're
       not going to get go forward. If you take Farrell off, then
       you're saying your choice to a)make him captain and b) start him
       at 10 we're wrong.
       Of course, it might be ok against Italy but with the 3 harder
       games to come, it could all come crashing down around his
       cauliflower ears very quickly!!!
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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: February 10, 2023, 9:20 am
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       We really put too much on who's captain, in almost all sports.
       Many countries are just fine substituting their captain.
       anyway:
       Starting
       15. Freddie Steward
       14. Max Malins
       13. Henry Slade
       12. Ollie Lawrence
       11. Ollie Hassell-Collins
       10. Owen Farrell (C)
       9. Jack van Poortvliet
       1. Ellis Genge (VC)
       2. Jamie George
       3. Kyle Sinckler
       4. Maro Itoje
       5. Ollie Chessum
       6. Lewis Ludlam
       7. Jack Willis
       8. Alex Dombrandt
       Replacements
       16. Jack Walker
       17. Mako Vunipola
       18. Dan Cole
       19. Nick Isiekwe
       20. Ben Earl
       21. Alex Mitchell
       22. Marcus Smith
       23. Henry Arundell
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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: February 10, 2023, 9:25 am
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       Fairly good team.
       Pack looks good, particularly if Maro finally turns up after not
       really doing much for 5/6 England games.
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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: #495
       Date: February 10, 2023, 10:01 am
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       Ribbans perhaps unlucky not to get a bench spot.  Mako lucky to
       still get picked too.
       Otherwise - pretty decent.  12 & 13 have balance (at last),
       whichever way round they play.  Strong bench too.  Shame it's
       Faz and not Marcus at 10, but I don't think anyone expected it
       to be any different when push came to shove.
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       Re: 3 BIG names dropped for Sunday!!
   DIR By: The Kid
       Date: February 10, 2023, 10:54 am
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       Other than dropping Marcus I can’t hate that team at all. Didn’t
       think they’d do it. Hopefully we perform.
       It’s a bit bizarre from a Quins perspective that Marcus is on
       the bench but his backup in Tommy is starting for Italy. don’t
       get me wrong, Allan is a good player, but the drop off from
       Marcus to him is substantial and it seems strange that one
       starts at HQ this week and the other doesn’t.
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