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#Post#: 104000--------------------------------------------------
Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: February 8, 2023, 5:43 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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> They don't have much choice but to "bother" - they've
presumably already sold more tickets to the Big Game than the
Stoop can hold, and not had so many handed back that it drops
back below 14,500. And average profit per game was at around
£300,000, so even an extra 5,000 tickets at £10k a pop is worth
having, even more so if it's going at more normal prices.
>
--- End Quote ---
True, hadn't thought of that!
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Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: poorfour
Date: February 8, 2023, 5:54 am
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if the time change is driven by
TV. It looks like Leicester v Bath is already scheduled at 3pm,
but the Big Game is one of the matches they like to put on TV
because of the scale and additional ballyhoo around it, so it
seems likely that BT will clear space in the schedule to show it
as a second match.
#Post#: 104006--------------------------------------------------
Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: SimonC
Date: February 8, 2023, 6:56 am
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This game is great example of how rugby will lose supporters.
Originally this weekend was a Wasps/Worcester fixture so when
their fixtures were cancelled a number of us booked a holiday
that weekend
The Exeter game was moved to this weekend - frustrating if you
had booked something else
It was then made Big Game - some don't like big HQ
The time is then changed
For some of us who try to get to every home game and plan around
it the continual change of plans have made this impossible. Down
from 12 seats to less than 5. Spectators treated very poorly for
this fixture.
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Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: poorfour
Date: February 8, 2023, 7:43 am
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--- Quote from: SimonC link ---
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> This game is great example of how rugby will lose supporters.
>
> Originally this weekend was a Wasps/Worcester fixture so when
their fixtures were cancelled a number of us booked a holiday
that weekend
>
> The Exeter game was moved to this weekend - frustrating if you
had booked something else
>
> It was then made Big Game - some don't like big HQ
>
> The time is then changed
>
> For some of us who try to get to every home game and plan
around it the continual change of plans have made this
impossible. Down from 12 seats to less than 5. Spectators
treated very poorly for this fixture.
>
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I can understand your frustration but it's a bit hyperbolic to
say that "this is how rugby will lose supporters" and
"Spectators treated very poorly".
What would you have had the club do? Intervene with the RMT over
the Government's heads to negotiate a way out of the strike? Get
Jillings and co to pony up the cash to keep Wasps and Worcester
afloat? Turn down the proposed date (assuming that the options
were limited by when Twickenham has capacity and when the police
will accept another large game)? Refuse to move the kick off for
TV? Abandon the fixture altogether?
The club and the fixture have had to contend with some pretty
unprecedented events that were outside their control. They've
done pretty well to get the fixture back on at all.
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Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: SimonC
Date: February 8, 2023, 8:25 am
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There was no suggestion that the club could have done anything
else as we don't know the detail to comment on that but merely
an observation that if supporters are messed around too much
then they may well vote with their feet.
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Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: Quinky
Date: February 8, 2023, 8:29 am
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--- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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> I can understand your frustration but it's a bit hyperbolic to
say that "this is how rugby will lose supporters" and
"Spectators treated very poorly".
>
> What would you have had the club do? Intervene with the RMT
over the Government's heads to negotiate a way out of the
strike? Get Jillings and co to pony up the cash to keep Wasps
and Worcester afloat? Turn down the proposed date (assuming that
the options were limited by when Twickenham has capacity and
when the police will accept another large game)? Refuse to move
the kick off for TV? Abandon the fixture altogether?
>
> The club and the fixture have had to contend with some pretty
unprecedented events that were outside their control. They've
done pretty well to get the fixture back on at all.
>
--- End Quote ---
This reminds me of the fans who gripe about moving games from
Saturday to Friday or Sunday. From my perspective, these were
usually the only games I could go to as I was usually playing on
a Saturday.
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Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: Yareet
Date: February 8, 2023, 10:04 am
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--- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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> This reminds me of the fans who gripe about moving games from
Saturday to Friday or Sunday. From my perspective, these were
usually the only games I could go to as I was usually playing on
a Saturday.
>
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Yup and that is one personal issue with having to move BG14.
There are very few community games on between Christmas and New
Year. Many of those "not real fans" who turn up to Big Game are
people who are generally playing when pro matches are on.
Unfortunately March 4th is a league match for us. We may be able
to move kick off earlier but if not, the 20+ players from our
club who normally go (and bring friends) will miss this one.
#Post#: 104013--------------------------------------------------
Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: RhubarbAndGustard
Date: February 8, 2023, 12:17 pm
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--- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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> I think that the reduced capacity is based on the difficulty
of selling 80,000 tickets.
> Basically, it is easier to sell 80k tickets round Xmas time
when people are all looking for an activity to do with
friends/family.
> But, it is more difficult on a random Saturday in March when
people are still paying off the Xmas credit card bills.
>
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It also doesn’t help that it’s during the 6 Nations period and
close to European games which people probably prioritise and
aren’t cheap
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Re: 4th March KO times.....
DIR By: SiB
Date: February 8, 2023, 12:29 pm
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--- Quote from: SwielOrNoSwiel link ---
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> It also doesn’t help that it’s during the 6 Nations period and
close to European games which people probably prioritise and
aren’t cheap
>
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But would also think as on a bye weekend with 6Nations interest
high a great time to promote the game at club level
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