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       #Post#: 103617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: Harleys Evil Step Mum
       Date: February 1, 2023, 4:46 am
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       IF England turn it on come Saturday the Italy game will sell out
       pretty quickly!
       #Post#: 103619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: Carbonm
       Date: February 1, 2023, 5:03 am
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       Maybe they will release some last minute cheap tickets if it
       doesn't sell out, although that would piss off a lot of people
       who have stumped up full price.
       What is the cheapest ticket, £100? I personally couldn't justify
       paying that sort of money for a game of rugby.
       #Post#: 103620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: February 1, 2023, 5:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Jedzi link ---
       >
       > I've long since felt that the RFU hugely over prices England
       games.  I'd love to go regularly, but I'm just not paying £140 a
       ticket.  If I take one of my kids, which I'd love to do as I
       have very strong memories of going with my dad, that makes it a
       £400 afternoon.
       >
       > I think Eng vs Sco has been slow to sell.  My local club
       suddenly got an extra 10 tickets last weekend, I don't remember
       that happening before for a game like this.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think simple economics would dictate that nothing can be
       classed as overpriced if there is maximum profit made.
       Twickenham has traditionally pretty much sold out so my
       assumption is that this leads to maximum profit.
       What we don't know is how much the higher prices have lowered
       the on-the-day spend - F&B, merchandise, etc.. It may be that
       punters are loathe to buy a shirt if they have already spent a
       small fortune on a ticket. However, as that is more
       discretionary spend, I can understand why the RFU would opt for
       the more guaranteed revenue of a higher ticket price.
       #Post#: 103621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: championes
       Date: February 1, 2023, 5:09 am
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       --- Quote from: Jedzi link ---
       >
       > I've long since felt that the RFU hugely over prices England
       games.  I'd love to go regularly, but I'm just not paying £140 a
       ticket.  If I take one of my kids, which I'd love to do as I
       have very strong memories of going with my dad, that makes it a
       £400 afternoon.
       >
       > I think Eng vs Sco has been slow to sell.  My local club
       suddenly got an extra 10 tickets last weekend, I don't remember
       that happening before for a game like this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There's defo never been as many tickets avail or on direct sale
       as now for proper matches.
       When I first started doing the First XV thing (then the
       supporters club) you'd be able to buy a couple of tickets for a
       match like Italy but that would be it.
       Last 18 months been able to buy pairs of tickets to pretty much
       every game with no problem at all after failing in the ballots.
       Two days to go until England V Scotland and there are still
       quite a few pairs/triple seats together -- you could in fact buy
       a block of 25 in one lower tier block if you want, which I
       assume means they've been released at short notice.
       #Post#: 103622--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: February 1, 2023, 5:14 am
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       --- Quote from: Carbonm link ---
       >
       > Maybe they will release some last minute cheap tickets if it
       doesn't sell out, although that would **** off a lot of people
       who have stumped up full price.
       >
       > What is the cheapest ticket, £100? I personally couldn't
       justify paying that sort of money for a game of rugby.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       In the past they have released tickets last minute through local
       schools.
       I got tickets for practically free in the past when my kids were
       at Chase Bridge school (in fact, I think they were free) and I
       also got tickets when they went to Orleans.
       #Post#: 103623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: HamptonCourtJester
       Date: February 1, 2023, 5:26 am
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       Following England has been way too expensive for a very long
       time.
       I echo many of the statements on here that it will be watched
       from the snug of my local hostelry.
       
       #Post#: 103631--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: Boonie
       Date: February 1, 2023, 6:57 am
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       Agreed. There's nothign quite like the buzz of 80k fans baying
       for their team to get the blood pumping...but even though I
       could probably afford it, it seems like a total rip-off to me. I
       can't justify that price per ticket.
       #Post#: 103639--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: Jedzi
       Date: February 1, 2023, 8:08 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
       >
       > I think simple economics would dictate that nothing can be
       classed as overpriced if there is maximum profit made.
       Twickenham has traditionally pretty much sold out so my
       assumption is that this leads to maximum profit.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Understood.  My (long ago) economics A Level taught me that you
       keep your price as high as possible so that you sell the last
       ticket seconds before kick-off … if your objective is to
       maximise ticket revenue.
       There are other aspects to it, for example keeping children
       interested in the game (look at cricket), encouraging community
       rugby, creating an atmosphere in the ground etc.  It's worth
       remembering the community game, 99% of the rugby played in this
       country, is in a very bleak place at the moment.  Kids rugby is
       doing OK.  Mens' amateur rugby is really struggling.
       
       #Post#: 103642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: championes
       Date: February 1, 2023, 9:12 am
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       --- Quote from: Yareet link ---
       >
       > I think simple economics would dictate that nothing can be
       classed as overpriced if there is maximum profit made.
       Twickenham has traditionally pretty much sold out so my
       assumption is that this leads to maximum profit.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       True -- and as prices have gone up (particularly with the change
       of the east stand into a vast hospitality operation) the crowd
       has got less interested (not just when we're losing) because so
       many more than before are there on a corporate jolly.
       But that aside, because you can easily argue that doesn't matter
       as long as you're maximising revenue) this time the Scotland
       match isn't sold out with two days to go and there are thousands
       of Italy tickets, so we may be reaching the point where prices
       have gone too high and they're making less money than they would
       if they came down 10% (with the associated increase in
       booze/food/merch spend per capita).
       #Post#: 103659--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Twickenham set for thousands of empty seats
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: February 1, 2023, 5:10 pm
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       --- Quote from: championes link ---
       >
       > True -- and as prices have gone up (particularly with the
       change of the east stand into a vast hospitality operation) the
       crowd has got less interested (not just when we're losing)
       because so many more than before are there on a corporate jolly.
       >
       > But that aside, because you can easily argue that doesn't
       matter as long as you're maximising revenue) this time the
       Scotland match isn't sold out with two days to go and there are
       thousands of Italy tickets, so we may be reaching the point
       where prices have gone too high and they're making less money
       than they would if they came down 10% (with the associated
       increase in booze/food/merch spend per capita).
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Don’t disagree with your second paragraph. My point was a
       response saying that prices have been too high for some time. It
       seems that we have now reached the maximum price at least for
       the current market.
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