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       #Post#: 103654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: February 1, 2023, 1:08 pm
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       Murley not being picked is tough, but OHC is also in good form.
       Personally, I think it’s potentially good for England
       supporters. Murley’s presence and continued clamour for
       inclusion should bring the best out of Watson/OHC, as they
       surely will know they need to deliver to remain in the side.
       I think under EJ a lot of the issues simply were a lot of
       players knew their position in the team was a given, with no
       real competition.(May/Nowell being chucked in with nothing to
       justify their last selections).
       Also, selfishly we retain him, and against Gloucester (if he’s
       not involved with England) we will need all hands on deck if we
       are to even consider being in the top 4
       #Post#: 103658--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: February 1, 2023, 4:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > He's played left wing a decent amount, so it's not that.
       >
       > I think the simple answer is that a fit and firing Watson is
       world class, and OHC's extended form matches Murley's extended
       form. I'm sure it wasn't an easy call.
       >
       > I would argue that perhaps this:
       >
       > should've been "was", with 2015-17 his peak - even back in
       2019 he wasn't quite at his best and it's been a struggle for
       him since then thanks to injury. He's not played for England for
       over 18 months, too.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure when we last saw a fit and firing Watson. He's scored 3
       tries from 9 matches this season, behind even Steward. All the
       other wingers were up near a try a game.
       I think ohc left and murley right with Malins or Watson 23 would
       have been better, but if murley isn't starting there's not much
       point him being there in fairness. He does also need to work on
       his kicking.
       #Post#: 103660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: Le Tiss
       Date: February 2, 2023, 4:37 am
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       In other news it's good to see Huw Jones getting a starting
       shirt for Scotland. A player who did wonders for us in a
       difficult time of need. Go well Huw.
       #Post#: 103661--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: February 2, 2023, 4:44 am
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       Was interesting seeing on another forum the Scottish fans all
       worrying massively about his defence. That wouldn't have been my
       major criticism of him as a player. Will be really interesting
       to see how he gets on!
       #Post#: 103662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: February 2, 2023, 5:37 am
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       All the main media outlet's going with March at 13 against
       Jones, so that will be good to see and pleased for March if true
       #Post#: 103665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: February 2, 2023, 6:37 am
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       --- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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       > All the main media outlet's going with March at 13 against
       Jones, so that will be good to see and pleased for March if true
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It'd be an interesting contrast of styles, and it's always fun
       to see players who've played together at club level up against
       each other at International level
       #Post#: 103670--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: February 2, 2023, 8:38 am
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       England starting XV: F Steward; M Malins, J Marchant, O Farrell
       (c), O Hassell-Collins; M Smith, J van Poortvliet; E Genge, J
       George, K Sinckler, M Itoje, O Chessum, L Ludlam, B Curry, A
       Dombrandt.
       Replacements: J Walker, M Vunipola, D Cole, N Isiekwe, B Earl, B
       Youngs, O Lawrence, A Watson.
       #Post#: 103691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: DOK
       Date: February 2, 2023, 2:49 pm
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       Well, as usual, England team looks good on paper!
       #Post#: 103693--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: February 2, 2023, 4:38 pm
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       That is actually a well balanced back three and back row. Still
       not convinced about Smith-Farrell... I'm willing to give it a
       chance with NEv in charge of the attack though.
       #Post#: 103701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Murley Released
   DIR By: #495
       Date: February 3, 2023, 3:08 am
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       The only sliver of faith I have in Smith + Farrell is that NEv
       has been allowed to change the dynamic of how it works i.e.
       actually let Marcus play first receiver more often than not and
       not just as an option "out the back" if Faz decides not to give
       it to a forward first.
       I like having actual flankers playing 6 and 7 - Ludlam has
       always looked fiesty and physical and maybe we need a bit more
       of that.  I wonder if we are a bit light in the row though.
       Admittedly I don't know loads about Chessum but neither he or
       Itoje seem to be of the heavier tight-head type lock.  Should
       look great around the park and in the line-out but I think we
       could struggle at scrum time against better packs (though I
       suppose this could be a horses for courses selection as the
       Scottish front-row may be slightly weakened).
       All in all, looking forward to it - if we lose at least we won't
       have the added ignominy of having to live with any pre-match EJ
       jibes.
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