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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: KentQuin
Date: February 1, 2023, 3:33 am
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I hope Murley isn't too deflated by this. But as he doesn't
cover full back he won't be considered for the bench so in
reality it was a straight shoot out between him and OHC to
start.
It's unlikely that two uncapped wingers would be blooded in the
same match, and Watson has been England's best back three player
for a number of years. Prior to his injury he was a shoe in as a
Lion's starter, and with his recent return to form his inclusion
is no surprise. I'd probably of picked him.
Murley's time will come and I'll be surprised if he doesn't get
capped during the 6N.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: poorfour
Date: February 1, 2023, 3:37 am
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I agree. Murley is too good to ignore forever - but he may be
one for the next RWC cycle given the relatively inexperienced
wider squad.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: February 1, 2023, 4:21 am
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> What does he have to do to get into the England team?
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Well, presumably look like one of the best two wingers in the
training squad or if he can only play on the right, the best
right winger. If he doesn't, why would Borthwick pick him?
Of course, what you don't know is how difficult a decision it
was. Hopefully very.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: February 1, 2023, 4:40 am
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He's played left wing a decent amount, so it's not that.
I think the simple answer is that a fit and firing Watson is
world class, and OHC's extended form matches Murley's extended
form. I'm sure it wasn't an easy call.
I would argue that perhaps this:
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> Watson has been England's best back three player for a number
of years
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should've been "was", with 2015-17 his peak - even back in 2019
he wasn't quite at his best and it's been a struggle for him
since then thanks to injury. He's not played for England for
over 18 months, too.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: Carbonm
Date: February 1, 2023, 4:58 am
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As some have suggested a straight shoot out between Murley and
OHC. Borthwick probably wanted Watson for a bit of experience
and covering fullback. Must have been a tough call but I can see
him going as part of the world cup squad if he keeps his form
up. Personally I would pick him but I am biased after all.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: Carbonm
Date: February 1, 2023, 5:42 am
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--- Quote from: Carbonm link ---
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> As some have suggested a straight shoot out between Murley and
OHC. Borthwick probably wanted Watson for a bit of experience
and covering fullback. Must have been a tough call but I can see
him going as part of the world cup squad if he keeps his form
up. Personally I would pick him but I am biased after all.
>
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Actually scrap what I said, I didn't Malins and Freeman
retained. Feel for Cadan what more does he have to do?
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: February 1, 2023, 7:02 am
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Freeman didn't do anything to deserve being dropped, and Malins
has been in great form again. Both of them are also
multi-positional; Freeman has played a lot of 15, Malins a lot
of 15 and 10.
As the one with the least international experience it's going to
be difficult for him to unseat quality players who are playing
very well and have more experience.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: February 1, 2023, 8:23 am
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Telegraph is reporting that Tuilagi won't be part of the 23
HTML https://archive.ph/AtqsG.
10-12-13 will be Smith Farrell
Marchant, with Lawrence and Watson on the bench.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: February 1, 2023, 8:42 am
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I'm struggling to see what it is that Murley doesn't give you
but the others do? He's fast, he's a terrific finisher, dominant
tackler, runs intelligent lines, defends very well, good in the
air.....not saying the others aren't good players but they don't
deliver all of those attributes.
Malins & Freeman aren't great defenders. Watson has lost some
pace and OHC just runs in straight lines. Maybe he doesn't look
as good in training, as opposed to what he does on the pitch?
As for No Tuilagi, I understand that but still doesn't resolve
the fact that Farrell is there at 12 so Smith & Marchant won't
see the ball.
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Re: Murley Released
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: February 1, 2023, 9:15 am
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OHC is better in the air - Murley's good-not-great there - and
probably has a bit more pace. Certainly has a lot more size.
Calling him a straight line runner seems strange, not what I've
seen from him.
Malins is great with ball in hand, has superb footwork and a
10's eye for the pass. Freeman is very rapid and excellent in
the air. Both these two cover 15 as well, ditto Watson who
remains a threatening winger with incredible footwork.
Murley probably has the weakest kicking game of the entire
group, too.
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