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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: Archquin
       Date: February 1, 2023, 9:17 am
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       2 match ban for Lewies then...
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: noah_jo
       Date: February 1, 2023, 9:27 am
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       Realistically only 1 week as he'll go to tackle school.
       He'll be back for BG
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: February 1, 2023, 9:34 am
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       Just confirmed on the Offy
  HTML https://www.quins.co.uk/Article/stephan-lewies-suspended-following-irish-fixture.<br
       />Two games that can be reduced to one following completion of
       he
       World Rugby Coaching Intervention Programme (CIP).
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: February 1, 2023, 9:49 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       >
       > If the Beard incident was worse than Steph's deffo red why
       wasn't he cited? It's not as if no-one noticed.
       >
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       Sometimes they don't get cited. Like Manu's shoulder to Tommy's
       head a couple of weeks back.
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: February 1, 2023, 9:58 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
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       > Sometimes they don't get cited. Like Manu's shoulder to
       Tommy's head a couple of weeks back.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Again, that's just your opinion that it deserved a red. It
       doesn't mean it was and isn't evidence of things not being
       cited.
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: February 1, 2023, 10:35 am
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       There was no actual head contact when Beard got tackled. Not a
       red, not a citing.
       Tuilagi absolutely should've been cited and banned, it was
       comparable to but worse than what Lewies did.
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: February 1, 2023, 10:38 am
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       Full judgment of Lewis' ban is available here:
  HTML https://www.englandrugby.com/governance/discipline/disciplinary-decisions
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: February 1, 2023, 11:08 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > There was no actual head contact when Beard got tackled. Not a
       red, not a citing.
       >
       > Tuilagi absolutely should've been cited and banned, it was
       comparable to but worse than what Lewies did.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It wasn't comparable. Allan was in the air and got nudged so he
       fell out of control. It was a fairly sudden change of position.
       The bloke Steph hit just fell over a bit but he was always
       there.
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: February 1, 2023, 12:45 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
       >
       > It wasn't comparable. Allan was in the air and got nudged so
       he fell out of control. It was a fairly sudden change of
       position. The bloke Steph hit just fell over a bit but he was
       always there.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It was comparable.
       Steph went for a cleanout on a guy who was falling to the floor
       and rolling to the side. His technique was dangerous and he hit
       him straight in the head with his shoulder.
       Tuilagi went for a huge flying hit with a big run-up on a guy
       who was falling to the floor. His technique was dangerous and he
       hit him straight in the head with his shoulder, at great pace,
       causing real damage.
       Allan being nudged in the air can't be an excuse for Tuilagi,
       because, well, he wasn't hit in the air by Tuilagi. He was hit
       by Tuilagi after he started stumbling, by someone who was so
       desperate to smash him into next week that he was out of control
       and unable to react to a not entirely unexpected change in
       circumstances of Allan stumbling to the floor. Tuilagi ended up
       cannonballing into him with his arm tucked and clenched. It was
       not a case of a legal tackle gone awry - it was a flying
       shoulder charge to the jaw of a vulnerable opponent that caused
       great harm.
       It's absurd that he got away with it.
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       Re: Team for Irish
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: February 1, 2023, 1:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > It was comparable.
       >
       > Steph went for a cleanout on a guy who was falling to the
       floor and rolling to the side. His technique was dangerous and
       he hit him straight in the head with his shoulder.
       >
       > Tuilagi went for a huge flying hit with a big run-up on a guy
       who was falling to the floor. His technique was dangerous and he
       hit him straight in the head with his shoulder, at great pace,
       causing real damage.
       >
       > Allan being nudged in the air can't be an excuse for Tuilagi,
       because, well, he wasn't hit in the air by Tuilagi. He was hit
       by Tuilagi after he started stumbling, by someone who was so
       desperate to smash him into next week that he was out of control
       and unable to react to a not entirely unexpected change in
       circumstances of Allan stumbling to the floor. Tuilagi ended up
       cannonballing into him with his arm tucked and clenched. It was
       not a case of a legal tackle gone awry - it was a flying
       shoulder charge to the jaw of a vulnerable opponent that caused
       great harm.
       >
       > It's absurd that he got away with it.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The art of exaggeration hasn't deserted you. &#128513;
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