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       #Post#: 102615--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: The Kid
       Date: January 16, 2023, 5:41 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
       >
       > I don't think you can lay all the blame for that at Cole's
       door. The scrum went well once Marler and Kruis were on to give
       it solidity. My concern is that with no Marler and no real
       setpiece specialist lock (for which role Tizard would be the
       obvious candidate), England will be vulnerable - but Borthwick
       is enough of a forwards specialist that maybe he can meld the
       squad he has into something more useful
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Even if this is true, neither of those players are playing for
       England anymore and the players replacing them aren’t going to
       fill that void well and the scrum will still struggle against
       the best. Sink and Stuart have both been good there and at least
       one of them has a longer future in tests.
       Only thing I can think is he’s there to help install whatever
       Borthwick and Sinfield will do with the pack more generally.
       #Post#: 102616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: January 16, 2023, 5:47 am
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       Fairly good squad. More refreshing than one of Eddies picks.
       I imagine the back line could be:
       9. Youngs (groan)
       10. Faz
       11. Murley
       12. Kelly
       13. Manu
       14. OHC
       15. Steward
       Not quite sure Cole and Mako are good picks though
       #Post#: 102617--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: January 16, 2023, 5:49 am
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       Decent enough squad. Surely it is time to move on from Youngs.
       Isiekwe a bit of a surprise.
       Not sure why Mako is still in there. Marler's form has dipped a
       bit recently, plus his ban. Still, he did a very good job
       yesterday.
       #Post#: 102619--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: January 16, 2023, 6:13 am
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       Not sure why people were expecting Joe to be in there. If
       nothing else his recent ban would've been a huge black mark and
       there's a lot of good loosehead talent, before you even get into
       his problems with touring, his patchy availability, etc.
       #Post#: 102620--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: January 16, 2023, 6:15 am
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       --- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
       >
       > Decent enough squad. Surely it is time to move on from Youngs.
       >
       > Isiekwe a bit of a surprise.
       >
       > Not sure why Mako is still in there. Marler's form has dipped
       a bit recently, plus his ban. Still, he did a very good job
       yesterday.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mako has been a great servant for England, but Genge,
       Rapava-Ruskin and Rodd all offer more around the field then him
       now, and Joe remains our best scrummaging loosehead by a margin
       (followed by Genge who has improved markedly). I think Mako's
       fortunate that Rapava-Ruskin is injured and Joe isn't up for
       selection.
       #Post#: 102625--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: January 16, 2023, 6:50 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Not sure why people were expecting Joe to be in there. If
       nothing else his recent ban would've been a huge black mark and
       there's a lot of good loosehead talent, before you even get into
       his problems with touring, his patchy availability, etc.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not surprised he's not been selected and wasn't expecting
       him to be, but I still think he's more deserving of selection
       than Mako. I accept that selecting him comes with certain risks
       #Post#: 102628--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: January 16, 2023, 7:39 am
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       Well that's peculiar, Stephen Jones only got 17 out of the 36.
       #Post#: 102629--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: January 16, 2023, 8:10 am
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       Farrell being named captain says it all really, so
       disappointing.
       Some decent picks in there - Pleased to see Marchant, Murley,
       Earl, Kelly, and no Porter, Billy, May or Nowell.
       Jack Walker is a ridiculous pick, and Ruskin/Pearson should be
       two of the first on the list.
       Would have liked to have seen Radwan there regardless of current
       form, although I'm happy with OHC and Murley - just hope we
       don't see too much of Daly or Malins. Quirke too.
       Didn't expect to see Joe or Danny, and not upset that we
       haven't.
       Mako, Mitchell, Daly, Freeman, Malins, Fin Smith, Manu, Youngs,
       Ludlam, Simmonds, no thanks
       #Post#: 102630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: Yareet
       Date: January 16, 2023, 8:26 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
       >
       > Farrell being named captain says it all really, so
       disappointing.
       >
       > Some decent picks in there - Pleased to see Marchant, Murley,
       Earl, Kelly, and no Porter, Billy, May or Nowell.
       >
       > Jack Walker is a ridiculous pick, and Ruskin/Pearson should be
       two of the first on the list.
       >
       > Would have liked to have seen Radwan there regardless of
       current form, although I'm happy with OHC and Murley - just hope
       we don't see too much of Daly or Malins. Quirke too.
       >
       > Didn't expect to see Joe or Danny, and not upset that we
       haven't.
       >
       > Mako, Mitchell, Daly, Freeman, Malins, Fin Smith, Manu,
       Youngs, Ludlam, Simmonds, no thanks
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       OOI, if you don't want Mitchell or Youngs, who are your three
       9s? I'm assuming from what you have said here that Raffi is one
       but who else? Happy with JVP? Personally I don't think he's
       playing that well at the moment. Spencer? Care?
       #Post#: 102633--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England Squad Announced
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: January 16, 2023, 8:38 am
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       Randall has just come back to fitness so give him a couple of
       games and he'd by my 3rd 9 behind Rafi & JVP. Else DC as they
       are both runners, not BK specialists like Youngs.
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