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       #Post#: 102022--------------------------------------------------
       Pitch Change
   DIR By: East Sussex Chris
       Date: January 9, 2023, 1:58 am
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       Is it time we went to an artificial surface? We cannot play in
       wet heavy conditions and as a running game is our tradition
       surely now is the time to move on. Also with all the financial
       issues it would surely be financially of benefit, pitch could be
       used 7 days a week for Soccer and Rugby, hope its been or is
       being looked at as surely its a way forward.
       #Post#: 102023--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: January 9, 2023, 2:41 am
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       Or perhaps a hybrid pitch?
       #Post#: 102026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: fatgat
       Date: January 9, 2023, 2:54 am
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       Maybe they are?! Maybe a reason for Paul Sykes to leave?!
       #Post#: 102027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: January 9, 2023, 2:55 am
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       It didn't prevent some excellent strike moves and the wet ball
       was a far bigger problem than the pitch itself. It's a huge
       expense and an unnecessary one.
       #Post#: 102029--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Chang
   DIR By: Monte
       Date: January 9, 2023, 2:58 am
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       --- Quote from: fatgat link ---
       >
       > Maybe they are?! Maybe a reason for Paul Sykes to leave?!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think you will find the management of the pitch is a Company
       ‘Nuture Gavin Jones’  Paul  was employed by them. He won or was
       a finalist in 2014 I seem to remember. He is quite ambitious and
       wanted to work somewhere at one time where he could match the
       training pitches to playing surface!!
       #Post#: 102038--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 9, 2023, 4:11 am
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       --- Quote from: Nico Wilson link ---
       >
       > Or perhaps a hybrid pitch?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I thought it already *was* a hybrid (4g?) pitch.
       #Post#: 102050--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: Jedzi
       Date: January 9, 2023, 5:02 am
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       --- Quote from: Fearless Fred link ---
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       > I thought it already *was* a hybrid (4g?) pitch.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A hybrid pitch is mixture of natural grass with fibres woven in
       to anchor the grass.  They bring in a great big machine and
       punch a million or so artificial 'blades of grass' into the
       pitch and then grow normal grass around them.  Desso is the main
       brand name here. Twickenham & Wembley both have them.  See here:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJux-ltjQY
       A 4G pitch is a fully artificial pitch.  I've been told that 3G
       / 4G are marketing terms and there's no actual definition of
       them.  In a Spinal Tap style, 4G sounds better than 3G and I've
       also seen boast of 5G as well.  From a rugby perspective, the
       key test is whether it's compliant with the relevant RFU / World
       Rugby regs.   There's a timelapse video of Rosslyn Park's
       artificial pitch being laid, here:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAxOYom7Lyg
       
       I'm no expert*, but from looking at it, I don't think the Stoop
       is a hybrid pitch.
       * Just a middle aged man, with more of an interest in pitches
       than I probably should have.
       #Post#: 102051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: fatgat
       Date: January 9, 2023, 5:11 am
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       [quote author=Monte link=topic=5658.msg102029#msg102029
       date=1673254686]
       I think you will find the management of the pitch is a Company
       ‘Nuture Gavin Jones’  Paul  was employed by them. He won or was
       a finalist in 2014 I seem to remember. He is quite ambitious and
       wanted to work somewhere at one time where he could match the
       training pitches to playing surface!!
       [/quot
       I was just being mischievous to stimulate comment. Paul was very
       proud of his grass - no it is not a hybrid -. He also told me of
       his ambitions last year. He was there on Saturday in a
       spectating role, had a brief chat, he was very upbeat.
       #Post#: 102052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: January 9, 2023, 5:14 am
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       A quick google suggests that as recently as 2019 it was a
       natural pitch (From this article about the Hockey pitch that was
       installed for games that year
  HTML https://www.schmitzfoam.com/success-stories/case-the-stoop#:~:text=The%20field%20at%20Twickenham%20Stoop%20is%20a%20natural%20grass%20surface%20and%20is%20the%20pride%20of%20the%20venue%20and%20the%20club.%20For%20England%20Hockey%20to%20successfully%20host%20an%20event%2C%20they%20would%20have%20to%20think%20outside%20of%20the%20box%20and%20be%20willing%20to%20surround%20themselves%20with%20partners%20eager%20to%20make%20things%20happen.).<br
       />I guess there's discussions to be had about cost outlay,
       longevity (tying in with medium term plans for the stadium),
       non-matchday use, etc.
       --- Quote from: Monte link ---
       >
       > I think you will find the management of the pitch is a Company
       ‘Nuture Gavin Jones’  Paul  was employed by them. He won or was
       a finalist in 2014 I seem to remember. He is quite ambitious and
       wanted to work somewhere at one time where he could match the
       training pitches to playing surface!!
       >
       > I was just being mischievous to stimulate comment. Paul was
       very proud of his grass - no it is not a hybrid -. He also told
       me of his ambitions last year. He was there on Saturday in a
       spectating role, had a brief chat, he was very upbeat.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Shouldn't that be his grasses?[emoji12]
       #Post#: 102053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pitch Change
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: January 9, 2023, 5:18 am
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       We’ve got 99 problems but the pitch ain’t one…
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