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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: January 1, 2023, 10:52 am
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       As Austin said, get on the bus crack a beer watch a film take
       tomorrow off then go again.
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: January 1, 2023, 10:55 am
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       Half of that team can’t catch so doubt they’d make it home.
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: January 1, 2023, 10:56 am
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       Not much good at all about today and you kind of feel it has
       been coming. The massive break during the AIs didn’t do us any
       favours and the injuries and now a suspension have stacked up
       since then. Too many fringe players look way off the pace.
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: January 1, 2023, 10:57 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > Matson is the new EJ.
       >
       > Even the most twinkled eyed fans will admit we are awful
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You desperately want us to be the worst team in the league,
       don't you?
       Top four, still in the hunt in Europe. Got thumped by a team
       playing at home having had two weeks off, with our best players
       either broken, banned, or knackered from playing with a short
       turnaround, and a heap of 2nd/3rd/4th choice players vs a nearly
       full strength side.
       Eddie Jones was awful because he made good players bad, made
       awful selection decisions, made players hate playing for
       England, and made fans hate watching them. He wasn't dealing
       with a huge injury list, there was never a clear plan on the
       pitch or off it, and on top of it all he made the entire setup
       as unlikable as he is.
       Very little of that applies to Quins. I don't know why you are
       working so hard to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. It's a
       cliche but it genuinely does seem to be the case that you'd be
       far happier supporting a team that can somehow afford to stack
       the entire squad with seasoned internationals and a sprinkling
       of the best youngsters from other sides - I'm sure you can find
       one.
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: January 1, 2023, 10:59 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > You desperately want us to be the worst team in the league,
       don't you?
       >
       > Top four, still in the hunt in Europe. Got thumped by a team
       playing at home having had two weeks off, with our best players
       either broken, banned, or knackered from playing with a short
       turnaround, and a heap of 2nd/3rd/4th choice players vs a nearly
       full strength side.
       >
       > Eddie Jones was awful because he made good players bad, made
       awful selection decisions, made players hate playing for
       England, and made fans hate watching them. He wasn't dealing
       with a huge injury list, there was never a clear plan on the
       pitch or off it, and on top of it all he made the entire setup
       as unlikable as he is.
       >
       > Very little of that applies to Quins. I don't know why you are
       working so hard to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. It's a
       cliche but it genuinely does seem to be the case that you'd be
       far happier supporting a team that can somehow afford to stack
       the entire squad with seasoned internationals and a sprinkling
       of the best youngsters from other sides - I'm sure you can find
       one.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Positives  from today?
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: January 1, 2023, 11:04 am
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       Well that truly was toilet, out physicalled at every collision
       and really no clue if Andre doesn't break the line. All the
       excuses already given above but the gamble of resting starters
       didn't pay off.
       Saints showing what can be achieved if you try and what the
       he'll has happened in the line-out? Can't keep this going with 3
       big games coming up.
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: January 1, 2023, 11:09 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > Positives  from today?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Dombrandt was superb. David largely made a good fist of things
       again. Baxter came through well in the scrum over time and put
       in a huge shift in attack and defence.
       That's about it.
       The difference between you and me is that every week you are
       positively giddy with excitement at the prospect that Quins
       might lose so you can start putting the boot in. Today we were
       rubbish - but there's a lot of reasons why we were rubbish and
       it's absurd to start making grand claims about us being trash
       without acknowledging the disadvantages we had on the day.
       We have not been anywhere close to being this bad this season,
       and in fact on many occasions we've been excellent, so let's not
       pretend this is our standard. Four days between matches for an
       already heavily weakened team playing against a fit and fresh
       near full strength side? Any reasonable person would accept that
       it was always going to be hard.
       Unreasonable people think it's an excuse to put the boot into
       the management and claim everything is dreadful and we're doomed
       to being relegated or something, because they like to think
       they've made a name for themselves as a Cassandra rather than
       just a tedious troll who's right once every six weeks or so
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: KentQuin
       Date: January 1, 2023, 11:12 am
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       Horror show today,  but that's what happens when you lose the
       gain line battle. Saints battered us in that department and
       that's a real worry with Sale next weekend.
       Only Andre, Dommers and Wilco when he came on gave us any go
       forward. The pack needs to step up.
       It might be a case of needs must given the injury list, but I'd
       like to see a few changes for the Sale game. That's two stinkers
       on the bounce from Hammond and White has been anonymous. Surely
       the likes of Jurevicius and Taulani deserve a crack.
       Only positives from today were the performances of Dommers and
       Nick David.
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: January 1, 2023, 11:29 am
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
       >
       > Dombrandt was superb. David largely made a good fist of things
       again. Baxter came through well in the scrum over time and put
       in a huge shift in attack and defence.
       >
       > That's about it.
       >
       > The difference between you and me is that every week you are
       positively giddy with excitement at the prospect that Quins
       might lose so you can start putting the boot in. Today we were
       rubbish - but there's a lot of reasons why we were rubbish and
       it's absurd to start making grand claims about us being trash
       without acknowledging the disadvantages we had on the day.
       >
       > We have not been anywhere close to being this bad this season,
       and in fact on many occasions we've been excellent, so let's not
       pretend this is our standard. Four days between matches for an
       already heavily weakened team playing against a fit and fresh
       near full strength side? Any reasonable person would accept that
       it was always going to be hard.
       >
       > Unreasonable people think it's an excuse to put the boot into
       the management and claim everything is dreadful and we're doomed
       to being relegated or something, because they like to think
       they've made a name for themselves as a Cassandra rather than
       just a tedious troll who's right once every six weeks or so
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       At least you accept I get it right.
       If you read back games we’ve won, I do praise the team.
       Watching today, and combining it with the results lately,
       suggests we aren’t very good. All the best
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       Re: Saints Game
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: January 1, 2023, 11:49 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > At least you accept I get it right.
       >
       > If you read back games we’ve won, I do praise the team.
       Watching today, and combining it with the results lately,
       suggests we aren’t very good. All the best
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Haha, don't kid yourself - how often have you been mocked on
       here for proclaiming we're terrible and definitely going to lose
       early on in matches only to have to backtrack when we've won
       again? A magic 8 ball has a better track record.
       You're so keen on being The Oracle there's never any room for
       reality to intrude on your world. Sport is messy, thankfully.
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