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       #Post#: 100837--------------------------------------------------
       o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: never sleep
       Date: December 20, 2022, 9:00 am
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       Peacock TV has an offer of $39.99 for a whole year's access.
       I am not sure how you actually watch it. I guess that you need a
       VPN and a smart TV.
       Peacock TV offers Premiership rugby games on their platform.
       If you live in a supported region, then this is probably a
       no-brainer.
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       #Post#: 100848--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: DazzaS
       Date: December 20, 2022, 10:08 am
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       --- Quote from: never sleep link ---
       >
       > Peacock TV has an offer of $39.99 for a whole year's access.
       >
       > I am not sure how you actually watch it. I guess that you need
       a VPN and a smart TV.
       >
       > Peacock TV offers Premiership rugby games on their platform.
       >
       > If you live in a supported region, then this is probably a
       no-brainer.
       >
       >
  HTML https://www.peacocktv.com/unavailable
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is only relevant for Us I think. Peacock in UK is only via
       Sky and not valid for UK use.
       #Post#: 100851--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: dinsdale
       Date: December 20, 2022, 11:13 am
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       A VPN will probably work but Peacock do try to block them,
       mostly unsucessfully.
       On a related note, knowing that Premiership Rugby is on Peacock
       is useful when in bars in the USA as the staff often won't know
       themselves but may well have a Peacock sub.
       #Post#: 100852--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: December 20, 2022, 11:15 am
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       --- Quote from: dinsdale link ---
       >
       > A VPN will probably work but Peacock do try to block them,
       mostly unsucessfully.
       >
       > On a related note, knowing that Premiership Rugby is on
       Peacock is useful when in bars in the USA as the staff often
       won't know themselves but may well have a Peacock sub.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I know that more and more of our home games are selling out and
       that they're not always televised, but isn't flying to the US
       simply to be able to watch Quins on TV a bit extreme?
       #Post#: 100857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: Stoop de Woop
       Date: December 20, 2022, 2:07 pm
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       Proton VPN works well for Peacock, and probably lots of other
       VPN providers do also. You can pay via Google pay subscription
       in the UK.
       #Post#: 100858--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: Sketchley
       Date: December 20, 2022, 2:19 pm
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       What's wrong with PRTV and the money going back into rugby?
       #Post#: 100859--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: Stoop de Woop
       Date: December 20, 2022, 4:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: Sketchley link ---
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       > What's wrong with PRTV and the money going back into rugby?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       AFAIK PRTV doesn't show all the premiership matches. Peacock
       isn't a dodgy streaming site, it's officially licensed from the
       prem.
       #Post#: 100878--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: December 21, 2022, 3:46 am
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       PRTV show all the matches not covered by BT live ANNNDDD Full
       Match Replays after the event too.
       #Post#: 100883--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: Kermitpower
       Date: December 21, 2022, 3:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Stoop de Woop link ---
       >
       > AFAIK PRTV doesn't show all the premiership matches. Peacock
       isn't a dodgy streaming site, it's officially licensed from the
       prem.
       --- End Quote ---
       PRTV shows all the games not being aired on BT when they're
       live, and all games are free of charge on the Prem website 24
       hours after the game.
       People think using things like Peacock via VPN isn't impacting
       anyone, but it is.
       It's priced lower for non-UK markets on the expectation that
       it's hoovering up some additional viewers it wouldn't be getting
       via BT, not to replace those BT viewers in the UK, so if people
       in the UK start using a VPN and paying for Peacock instead of
       contracting with BT, ultimately BT will  just not bother to
       chase a contract renewal because their viewer figures won't
       justify the outlay, leaving all the clubs even further down the
       financial toilet.
       I've worked in software my whole career and have lost plenty of
       business to software piracy, which leads me to loathe people who
       pirate software, TV and the like, having lost various deals over
       the years because of pirated software licences.
       #Post#: 100891--------------------------------------------------
       Re: o/t Peacock TV
   DIR By: Stoop de Woop
       Date: December 21, 2022, 4:56 am
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       --- Quote from: Kermitpower link ---
       >
       > PRTV shows all the games not being aired on BT when they're
       live, and all games are free of charge on the Prem website 24
       hours after the game.
       >
       > People think using things like Peacock via VPN isn't impacting
       anyone, but it is.
       >
       > It's priced lower for non-UK markets on the expectation that
       it's hoovering up some additional viewers it wouldn't be getting
       via BT, not to replace those BT viewers in the UK, so if people
       in the UK start using a VPN and paying for Peacock instead of
       contracting with BT, ultimately BT will  just not bother to
       chase a contract renewal because their viewer figures won't
       justify the outlay, leaving all the clubs even further down the
       financial toilet.
       >
       > I've worked in software my whole career and have lost plenty
       of business to software piracy, which leads me to loathe people
       who pirate software, TV and the like, having lost various deals
       over the years because of pirated software licences.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Firstly software piracy is significantly different from using an
       official broadcaster in another country.
       Secondly you're suggesting that rugby fans in the UK should
       purchase not just one expensive annual membership to a streaming
       site that only shows a 3 games a weekend at their discretion (BT
       Sport) but
       that they should actually go and purchase another expensive
       annual membership to watch the rest? If you want to talk about
       growing the game etc then accessibility to rugby is a big part
       of that so I would argue the current conditions are creating a
       vacuum for other service providers (such a FloRugby, StanSport
       and Peacock etc) to fill. If BT Sport chose to stream all of the
       games online, which is entirely technically possible - you
       should know - then I would pay for their service. But until that
       happens I'm happy not to and would urge others to vote with
       their wallet too.
       Thirdly if you're here to defend some US tech company's Terms of
       Service then I don't know what to tell you [emoji23] - that's
       for you lot to moralise over
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