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       #Post#: 100694--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: Kermitpower
       Date: December 16, 2022, 12:30 pm
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       --- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
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       > No. But yoi have access to the same resources I do. I'm not
       going to do the work for you. Ìf you want to prove me right or
       wrong then you need to do the work yourself.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Ah yes...  the strategy of charlatans everywhere!  Make a claim
       with no supporting evidence, then say it's up to others to prove
       them wrong!
       Particularly repugnant when companies do it as a way of
       weaseling out of warranty claims and the like!
       #Post#: 100695--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: Audi Quintro
       Date: December 16, 2022, 12:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
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       > No. But yoi have access to the same resources I do. I'm not
       going to do the work for you. Ìf you want to prove me right or
       wrong then you need to do the work yourself.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       *you
       #Post#: 100701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: DazzaS
       Date: December 16, 2022, 9:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Audi Quintro link ---
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       > *you
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Did that make you feel superior?  Did you feel smug and play
       with yourself while correcting a word?
       #Post#: 100702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: DazzaS
       Date: December 16, 2022, 9:23 pm
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       >
       >
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       The supporting evidence is widely reported. Lynch has reconciled
       it and carried by the news broadcasters as well as RMT"s site.
       None of it been denied by the employers.  But if you bothered to
       research that, instead of trying to call me a lier, then you
       will see for yourself.
       Why are you on the side of big companies over the average
       worker?
       #Post#: 100703--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: Kermitpower
       Date: December 17, 2022, 12:04 am
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       --- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
       > Why are you on the side of big companies over the average
       worker?
       --- End Quote ---
       1.  Because all of these "average workers" screaming for double
       digit payrises have no demonstrable increase in productivity
       with which to justify them, which is going to increase the cost
       of the goods or services their employers sell, resulting in
       increased costs to me (and also, ironically, to all those
       demanding big payrises) for no additional benefit.
       2.  Because any of those employers in direct competition with
       overseas companies are going to be made less competitive,
       meaning a higher probability of job losses, meaning more of my
       taxes going on unemployment benefits.
       3.  Because in the case of NHS workers, they represent over 5%
       of the total working population, so giving them the double digit
       payrises they're asking for would have a massive impact on all
       of us, and I'm thoroughly hacked off with the way they all bang
       on about how they all saved the country during Covid, when for
       every massively overworked intensive care nurse there were
       multiple others sat around twiddling their thumbs because non
       urgent care was cancelled, and the money would surely be better
       spent getting that care back on track.
       4.  Because like many "average workers", I'd really like to
       retire one day, and when the strikers bang on about the rail
       companies, oil companies and others making big profits, I view
       that as news to be celebrated!  Those big corporations aren't
       owned by Monty Burns characters rubbing their hands in glee
       whilst they release the hounds on the workers, they're owned
       mostly by those self same pension funds whose success will allow
       us better standards of living in retirement.
       I could probably come up with more if you like?
       #Post#: 100704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: Audi Quintro
       Date: December 17, 2022, 12:35 am
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       --- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
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       > Did that make you feel superior?  Did you feel smug and play
       with yourself while correcting a word?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes it does actually. You have zero credibility.
       #Post#: 100705--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: J Scott
       Date: December 17, 2022, 2:32 am
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       Well this is annoying, not only does this stop the traditional
       dads and lads day out but I’m also away on 4 March so will miss
       it anyway and have to give up my ST spot for the game.
       I will be watching rugby that day but in Cape town Stormer v
       Sharks. I’ll still be in my Quins shirt though. 😜
       
       #Post#: 100706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: DazzaS
       Date: December 17, 2022, 2:32 am
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       --- Quote from: Kermitpower link ---
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       > 1.  Because all of these "average workers" screaming for
       double digit payrises have no demonstrable increase in
       productivity with which to justify them, which is going to
       increase the cost of the goods or services their employers sell,
       resulting in increased costs to me (and also, ironically, to all
       those demanding big payrises) for no additional benefit.
       >
       > 2.  Because any of those employers in direct competition with
       overseas companies are going to be made less competitive,
       meaning a higher probability of job losses, meaning more of my
       taxes going on unemployment benefits.
       >
       > 3.  Because in the case of NHS workers, they represent over 5%
       of the total working population, so giving them the double digit
       payrises they're asking for would have a massive impact on all
       of us, and I'm thoroughly hacked off with the way they all bang
       on about how they all saved the country during Covid, when for
       every massively overworked intensive care nurse there were
       multiple others sat around twiddling their thumbs because non
       urgent care was cancelled, and the money would surely be better
       spent getting that care back on track.
       >
       > 4.  Because like many "average workers", I'd really like to
       retire one day, and when the strikers bang on about the rail
       companies, oil companies and others making big profits, I view
       that as news to be celebrated!  Those big corporations aren't
       owned by Monty Burns characters rubbing their hands in glee
       whilst they release the hounds on the workers, they're owned
       mostly by those self same pension funds whose success will allow
       us better standards of living in retirement.
       >
       > I could probably come up with more if you like?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Every one of this has a counter argument. And as much as I would
       like to do that. This is probably better in a seperate off topic
       thread in the non rugby bit of the forum or in the pub.
       However in terms of ownership, wages, NHS there is so much we
       are opposites on and thoa forum would not be best served by us
       dueling it out.
       So I will not engage in this and wish you good day and that you
       are able to get to the Stoop OK tomorrow and next week as well
       as wishing you and yours a good Christmas.
       #Post#: 100707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: SunburyQuin
       Date: December 17, 2022, 2:33 am
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       Hey folks ! Please stop the slanging matches. The train strikes
       are what they are. Yes - it is disappointing that BG14 has had
       to be re-routed, but, I am glad a solution has been found (even
       though not ideal). Credit goes to those who have worked &
       co-operated behind the scenes in finding this way out of such a
       predicament.
       #Post#: 100711--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Big Game at the Little Stoop now?
   DIR By: Kermitpower
       Date: December 17, 2022, 4:00 am
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       --- Quote from: DazzaS link ---
       >
       > Every one of this has a counter argument. And as much as I
       would like to do that. This is probably better in a seperate off
       topic thread in the non rugby bit of the forum or in the pub.
       >
       > However in terms of ownership, wages, NHS there is so much we
       are opposites on and thoa forum would not be best served by us
       dueling it out.
       >
       > So I will not engage in this and wish you good day and that
       you are able to get to the Stoop OK tomorrow and next week as
       well as wishing you and yours a good Christmas.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       A fair point, so I've moved it to a new thread in the O/T part
       so you can respond without us continuing to derail this thread.
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