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British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: DOK
Date: December 4, 2022, 1:43 pm
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After 'positive feedback' from players, unions, sponsors and
broadcasters
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-11499335/British-Irish-Lions-push-ahead-womens-team-positive-feedback.html
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: December 4, 2022, 6:03 pm
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That's cool. I'd like to see it happen, especially as the more
amateur nature of the women's game makes for a more classic
Lions environment.
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: Camquin
Date: December 5, 2022, 3:56 am
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I think any women picked for the squad need to be paid, and they
need to be given the same support as a men's team. Let not fly
the women economy and the men first class.
Any profit should be used to develop the women's game.
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: QuincyJones
Date: December 5, 2022, 10:08 am
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I'm all on board with them making a team and touring, but if
they fly them all business class and pay them large sums there
won't be any profit. They would do very well to make any profit
even if they went by boat.
I do enjoy women's rugby and love to see it improving but I do
feel that this whole having to be equal (or as close to equal as
possible) as men's isn't sustainable.
The growth should be organic, in my view. Sell more tickets,
travel packages etc. and then pay players more when the money is
there.
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: Yareet
Date: December 5, 2022, 10:32 am
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--- Quote from: QuincyJones link ---
>
> I'm all on board with them making a team and touring, but if
they fly them all business class and pay them large sums there
won't be any profit. They would do very well to make any profit
even if they went by boat.
>
> I do enjoy women's rugby and love to see it improving but I do
feel that this whole having to be equal (or as close to equal as
possible) as men's isn't sustainable.
>
> The growth should be organic, in my view. Sell more tickets,
travel packages etc. and then pay players more when the money is
there.
>
--- End Quote ---
But wouldn't the Lions just get an appropriate airline to
sponsor the team? Bingo Bango - free flights!
I can't see a women's Lions team paid what the men get but
treating them as amateurs would fly in the face of the
prevailing thinking around women's rugby. How many tier 1
nations still have completely amateur women's national teams? I
think only Argentina and SA.
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: December 6, 2022, 12:58 am
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Why not tour at the same time as the men? Reduce costs and play
the games on a mid-week evening so the main touring party fans
can attend...
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: Wirralquin
Date: December 6, 2022, 1:37 am
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Scotland Ireland and wales ladies teams are truly awful this all
this would be is an England squad rebranded .. not in favour ..
unless it was renamed British lionesses
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: December 6, 2022, 3:02 am
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--- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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> Why not tour at the same time as the men? Reduce costs and
play the games on a mid-week evening so the main touring party
fans can attend...
>
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Because that immediately pigeonholes them into a "warmup act for
the 'real' sport" role. It's one of the reasons why the double
headers are unpopular among women's sport. We've seen with all
of the major sports that the women's game works best and gets
more viewers/crowds when tournaments are allowed to stand alone.
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: Fearless Fred
Date: December 6, 2022, 3:22 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> Because that immediately pigeonholes them into a "warmup act
for the 'real' sport" role. It's one of the reasons why the
double headers are unpopular among women's sport. We've seen
with all of the major sports that the women's game works best
and gets more viewers/crowds when tournaments are allowed to
stand alone.
>
--- End Quote ---
Also, given the different picture in the womens rankings, I'd
expect them to tour to either Canada or USA instead of SA. Let
them tour on a 4 year cycle that matches up with their world cup
cycle the way the mens does. The next WRWC is in 2025, so a
Womens Lions tour should be 2027. If they had a decent amount of
planning they could make sure it falls into the gap between the
end of the mens & womens domestic seasons and the warm up games
for the mens world cup to ensure that the Rugby fans has always
got something they can watch.
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Re: British & Irish Lions to push ahead with a women's team
DIR By: Yareet
Date: December 6, 2022, 3:36 am
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--- Quote from: Wirralquin link ---
>
> Scotland Ireland and wales ladies teams are truly awful this
all this would be is an England squad rebranded .. not in favour
.. unless it was renamed British lionesses
>
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At the moment, the other home nations teams are weaker but much
of that is because England have been a pro team for much longer.
By 2027, the other Home Nations will have (hopefully) closed the
gap.
Or put another way, Sarah Hunter has said she won't make
Australia 2025. Have the English pack with Jade Konkel in there
instead - after 4 years of not having to work as a firefighter
as well as playing rugby.
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