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       #Post#: 98924--------------------------------------------------
       England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: November 10, 2022, 5:39 am
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       Number eight Sam Simmonds and scrum-half Jack van Poortvliet
       will start for a much-changed England against Japan at
       Twickenham on Saturday.
       South Africa-born David Ribbans makes his debut at lock,
       replacing Northampton team-mate Alex Coles.
       Manu Tuilagi drops to the bench, with Leicester's Guy Porter
       coming in at outside centre.
       Wing Jonny May will start in place of Joe Cokanasiga, only 22
       days after dislocating an elbow on club duty.
       England: Steward; Nowell, Porter, Farrell (capt), May; Smith,
       Van Poortvliet; Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Ribbans, Hill,
       Itoje, Curry, Simmonds.
       Replacements: George, M Vunipola, Heyes, Coles, B Vunipola,
       Youngs, Slade, Tuilagi.
       Maybe Smith can sneak on a Japanese jersey as he'll fit into
       their system so much easier!
       #Post#: 98925--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 10, 2022, 5:46 am
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       I want Japan to tonk England, as it puts EJs position more under
       scrutiny.
       Itoje at 6 is a schockingly bad call. Coles dropped after a good
       debut? LCD the penalty magnet, Nowell who has the speed and
       flair of a milk float?
       Porter at least will probably play himself out of any future
       squads by starting if he makes the same impact he did in Oz.
       Freeman should replace Jack all day long, but instead we drop
       the only back who had any credible impact last week.
       Probably make or break for Simmonds in how he does for his
       England career, as I imagine come 6n Alex and Billy will
       probably be the picks, and for the WC by then Mercer (who I
       rate) will also be in contention.
       #Post#: 98926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: Banstead Quin
       Date: November 10, 2022, 5:54 am
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       As Simmonds is off to France, he has no future once Dommers is
       back in. Mercer will need to start again almost from scratch.
       Shall we have a sweep on how many tackles Porter misses? I'm
       going with 7
       #Post#: 98934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: November 10, 2022, 6:25 am
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       Pretty baffled by that.
       Several players who did poorly retained or retained in the wrong
       position, and I really don't see what Porter offers. JVP in is a
       positive, as is May if he is fit, and Japan may be the right
       team for Simmonds to shine.
       Easter is spot on when he says you can't trade Itoje for Lawes.
       Itoje has the potentialt to be remembered as an all time great
       lock; Lawes is a top class flanker who happens to be the right
       shape to play lock as well - but they are different beasts. I'd
       much rather see Chessum or Coles or even Jurevicius on the flank
       if we want a flanker who's a third lineout option (or
       Kenningham, who's been very strong in the lineout this year and
       is a proper flanker)
       #Post#: 98935--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: FatQuin
       Date: November 10, 2022, 6:27 am
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       What is the point in having Murley in camp unless he gets a run
       out in this game?
       #Post#: 98937--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: November 10, 2022, 7:07 am
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       --- Quote from: FatQuin link ---
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       > What is the point in having Murley in camp unless he gets a
       run out in this game?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's Marcus' housemate I think so perhaps EJ under a bit of
       emotional pressure from Marcus.
       #Post#: 98938--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: raedarius
       Date: November 10, 2022, 7:11 am
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       The simple answer is because it's his turn to be in a camp and
       not get a game.  See OHC, Lynagh, Odogwu etc.
       #Post#: 98940--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: November 10, 2022, 7:28 am
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       Only Eddie would take a world class operator like Itoje and bung
       him at 6. The Porter call is just odd to be honest.
       #Post#: 98942--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: November 10, 2022, 8:41 am
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       I already have the feeling watching this game will be like
       seeing a speedboat drag an anchor.
       Porter has played TWO premiership games all season, scoring 1
       try.
       Marchant, 7 games 3 tries, with getting a lot more minutes in
       but most importantly catching the eye with some good
       performances.
       Even Elliot Daly would have warranted more of a start over
       Porter considering his season.
       #Post#: 98946--------------------------------------------------
       Re: England v Japan....why bother!!!
   DIR By: exdublinquin
       Date: November 10, 2022, 1:49 pm
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       EJ is / has become so unchallenged he just is now running he own
       Frankenstein like team . For his own entertainment, not for the
       good of English Rugby and definitely not to provide
       “entertainment “ to 80,000 paying guests plus how many viewing
       on TV.  He of course needs to win but he / RFU are responsible
       for delivering a product to fee paying customers.
       Not sure he gets that / cares.  But his bosses aren’t reminding
       him / keeping him to account for that.
       Just my view  🥴🥴🥴🥴
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