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#Post#: 8150--------------------------------------------------
Re: Visser
DIR By: Cookie
Date: October 8, 2018, 7:42 am
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With the reticence to pick Ibitoye for some unknown reason,
Visser is still better than Walker and Alofa on form. If Morris
is fit, I can see him, Brownie and Earle as the back 3,
reasonably unchallenged.
#Post#: 8161--------------------------------------------------
Re: Visser
DIR By: never sleep
Date: October 8, 2018, 8:58 am
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Cookie - aren't you forgetting Chis Snr. He is very quick and
good under the high ball. He tends to score loads of tries when
you give him a run of games too.
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Re: Visser
DIR By: Pickled Pelicon
Date: October 8, 2018, 9:13 am
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Morris took part in the pre match warm up, he wouldn't be there
if he wasn't fit to play.
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Re: Visser
DIR By: honkytonk
Date: October 8, 2018, 9:16 am
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--- Quote from: Cookie link ---
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> With the reticence to pick Ibitoye for some unknown reason,
Visser is still better than Walker and Alofa on form. If Morris
is fit, I can see him, Brownie and Earle as the back 3,
reasonably unchallenged.
>
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I thought Alofa was excellent against Sarries (although he was
at Centre!!)
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Re: Visser
DIR By: fandg2
Date: October 8, 2018, 10:18 am
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--- Quote from: Cookie link ---
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> With the reticence to pick Ibitoye for some unknown reason....
>
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I would guess it's his defence that is keeping him back atm. If
the preferred strategy is to use two FBs in the back 3 ie good
defensive players then I can't see Gabs getting a starting look
in for a while unless at gamechanger and even then it would be
odd to have a winger on the bench unless you knew the game was
going to open up in the last 20
#Post#: 8170--------------------------------------------------
Re: Visser
DIR By: fandg2
Date: October 8, 2018, 10:25 am
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--- Quote from: Pickled Pelican link ---
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> Morris took part in the pre match warm up, he wouldn't be
there if he wasn't fit to play.
>
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Yes I felt that was unusual for a home game. For an away game
there's normally a forward and back non playing reserve taken,
to cover any warm up injuries. For home games they have the
whole squad sitting in the stands to choose from if required.
Made me wonder if there was somebody in the matchday 23 that
they thought might break during the warm up.
Or, thats how it was so maybe this season they've decided to
nominate the likely non playing reserve(s) for home games and
get them out warming up. Makes sense I suppose.
#Post#: 8172--------------------------------------------------
Re: Visser
DIR By: Quins Head
Date: October 8, 2018, 10:30 am
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I’ve seen it at home games on a regular basis nothing new there
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Re: Visser
DIR By: Cookie
Date: October 8, 2018, 11:13 am
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--- Quote from: never sleep link ---
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> Cookie - aren't you forgetting Chis Snr. He is very quick and
good under the high ball. He tends to score loads of tries when
you give him a run of games too.
>
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Yes, I am. Poor form on my part.
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Re: Visser
DIR By: quinalan
Date: October 8, 2018, 12:30 pm
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Are we viewing Ibitoye as being similar to Christian Wade?
Incredible ability as a finisher & in broken play but suspect
defence. If so that kind of makes him an invaluable game changer
doesn't it? Jammy, youre rating Earle as our best winger &
probably right there. With Earle, Ibitoye, Chisholm, Morris,
Visser, Walker, we do have quite a bit of talent there wouldnt
you say? & two of them cover Full back.
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Re: Visser
DIR By: TeddingtonQuin
Date: October 9, 2018, 2:15 pm
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--- Quote from: Everyone’s a Quinner link ---
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> [quote author=Blucherquin link=topic=543.msg8105#msg8105
date=1538947488]
> Can anyone who’s been banging on about wanting Visser in the
side explain to me why?
>
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I don’t feel I for one have been banging on about wanting him
back in the first team week in week out, I do however think he
deserved his start having missed out on the first few Gallagher
Premiership games.
I like all our wingers as they each offer something different to
the position, but I think much like our season, we can’t judge
and summise players by one game. Single players have up and down
days as do teams in general, so hard to judge by one game.
[/quote]
Agree absolutely with the point the OP is making. Those of us
fortunate enough to be able to see the A league matches will
know that he played in both those so far this season at the
Stoop and had one average and one poor game so I'm bemused as to
why he was in the 23 against Salarycens, let alone starting.
Ibitoye this season has been on fire in the A league, not only
in his attacking play and as you say, a slippeyness akin to
Christian Wade BUT he has also been good defensively, making
tackles and making them stick too. Now that may not be quite
enough for the Prem, we'll have to see but he offers so much
more than Visser who is:
Slooooooooowwwww
Poor defensively
Poor attacking
Pants under the high ball
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