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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:01 am
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       > agreed
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       Only going to be worse next year thanks to the world cup. For
       the money the punters are paying, it's insane.
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:01 am
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       > Another humiliation at the hands of Sarries.
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       In what way is 3pt loss a ‘humiliation’? [emoji58]
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Quintessential
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:02 am
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       > Why the hell was the tackle off the ball on Allan not even
       looked at? He had a good chance to recover the ball if he hadn't
       been pulled back and there's a clear case for a penalty where it
       happened and arguably a yellow because it was blatantly and
       illegally killing an attacking opportunity
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       Pretty sure there was a deliberate knock-on by Sarries when we
       were attacking down the left with pen advantage for BV not
       rolling away, around 55mins in I think, but wasn't mentioned on
       commentary, by ref/TMO or any replay shown. Will be checking the
       full match replay to see if I imagined it!
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:03 am
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       I wouldn't call it a humiliation, but when you consider we were
       17 ahead within 10 mins...
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Man From LA
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:04 am
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       > Dallaglio saying "there's a reason Saracen's have been in 6 of
       the last 9 finals" is hilarious.
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       > Yes, there's a massive reason which BT Sport like to pretend
       didn't happen for some bizarre reason
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       Dallaglio also said last year that Farrell is the greatest Prem
       player ever because of all the Prem medals he has 'won'. No
       doubt his favourite Tour de France rider is Lance Armstrong for
       all the yellow jerseys he 'won' too.
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:06 am
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       > Losing from being 17 points ahead is pretty bad and once again
       we’ve shown our game management has been found lacking.
       Massively need Andre/Care/Smith/Dombrandt fit and firing
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       Well perhaps it’s because the two things are linked. We were
       missing 3 of our 4 most important players - two of which are
       mainly responsible for managing the game. Saracens were somehow
       allowed access to virtually all of their England contingent so I
       don’t think this result is any way shocking.
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Quinston Churchill
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:10 am
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       > I wouldn't call it a humiliation, but when you consider we
       were 17 ahead within 10 mins...
       >
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       Sure, but you look at those two 23s and it’s not a huge surprise
       the more experienced, expensively assembled side has a stack of
       advantages that leads to a win.
       Before the game the usual suspects could only see us being
       ‘mullered’. As disappointing as the result is, it certainly
       wasn’t the crushing defeat the doom mongers seem to delight in
       predicting.
       Honestly, I swear there’s a few posters who are happier when we
       lose than when we win.
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: poorfour
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:17 am
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       From a roadmap perspective, we got the point we were looking for
       and we're still ahead of plan.
       It's just hugely frustrating that it ended the way it did.
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:19 am
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       Possibly related. But I think some supporters are happy to look
       for mitigation wherever it can be found. We were miles ahead,
       and a lot of that was down to luck. We stopped playing our game
       and took the points, then tried to hold on. We adopted a really,
       really bad kicking game and sarries played all the rugby in the
       second half. Sure that's partly down to the missing eraonnel,
       but don't tell me that team couldn't have beaten sarries with a
       17 point lead.
       We can't bang on about the quins way and then jettison it as
       soon as we come up against a decent side.
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       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Hellequin
       Date: September 17, 2022, 11:19 am
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       Cheats somehow managing all their England contingent back and us
       not, and having one of the worst refs officiating it was always
       going to be an uphill struggle. Before the match would have
       taken a bonus point but the disappointment was that we were
       ahead. Seemed to drop off after key players went off injured as
       well, need someone else to step up as Captain when Dommers went
       off.
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