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       #Post#: 95744--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: September 18, 2022, 3:11 am
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       After watching the game back it was obvious that their bench of
       internationals made a difference and we badly missed Dommers and
       Will. I was shocked to see Salarycens offloading and throwing
       the ball around which made the game a lot better to watch than
       the usual grinding borfest. They were a lot better at the
       breakdown and managed to slow our ball down a lot but I thought
       they went off their feet a few times and got away with it. Some
       are blaming Gjaltemas attempted pass to Green that led to a try
       but Saracens left more tries out there through their own
       mistakes.
       When it comes to the international player count I think we
       only have Joe Marler with double figure caps, all our others are
       on a handful or less. Overall considering the team we had out
       the result was very close.
       #Post#: 95745--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: September 18, 2022, 3:18 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
       >
       > We did. But I recall that the record was beaten soon after,
       against us - Tom Voyce, Bath (I think).
       >
       > I was at the Sarries game. A Friday night. A Sarries
       supporting friend had been giving it large that he'd find me
       after the game for a gloat; strangely, after the game, he'd
       turned his phone off.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Ahh right. On the note of Bath, how crap are they? Sale were
       down to 14 for about 2 thirds of the game and still came out
       comfortable winners. I’d be very worried if I was a Bath
       supporter.
       #Post#: 95750--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Maggiephilquin
       Date: September 18, 2022, 4:15 am
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       And every time the ball was bouncing around after a high kick,
       that so-and-so McFarland got his hands on it. For me, he was the
       pick of an excellent off loading performance by all the Sarries
       pack.
       #Post#: 95751--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Mayor West
       Date: September 18, 2022, 4:28 am
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       Almost forgot the deliberate knock on in one of our second half
       attacks that was deemed to be a genuine attempt by sir.????
       #Post#: 95753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: September 18, 2022, 4:44 am
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       --- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
       >
       > Ahh right. On the note of Bath, how crap are they? Sale were
       down to 14 for about 2 thirds of the game and still came out
       comfortable winners. I’d be very worried if I was a Bath
       supporter.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not looking good, are they? It occurred to me yesterday that
       maybe, just maybe, they're slightly less concerned than they
       should be, in the absence of relegation. But maybe that's just
       wishful thinking.
       #Post#: 95754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
       Date: September 18, 2022, 5:05 am
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       --- Quote from: Quinky link ---
       >
       > Not looking good, are they? It occurred to me yesterday that
       maybe, just maybe, they're slightly less concerned than they
       should be, in the absence of relegation. But maybe that's just
       wishful thinking.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I think that plays a part of it. Last week they did well to stay
       in touch but this week - at home - they were dreadful. Sale
       won’t get an easier 5pts
       #Post#: 95758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Comet
       Date: September 18, 2022, 7:58 am
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       Whatever you think of their players, they were very good in that
       second half and their offloading was pretty slick throughout.
       They were good value for the win. Which is very painful!
       It is a real frustration that we stopped playing in the second
       half. The box kicking didn't work but we kept doing it and only
       invited increasing pressure on our defence. Maybe we couldn't
       play our way out of the squeeze but it was frustrating to see us
       kick the ball away so often, when we were carrying quite well.
       We really missed Dommers, André, Chis and Lawday.
       On the positive side, we were really electric in the first 25
       minutes or so. The handling and cohesion looked terrific. Our
       scrum looked good and the lineout was mostly decent again (if I
       remember correctly  - apart from one critical mistake in the
       second half).
       All in all, there was enough good stuff to give us heart going
       into the next 2 big games against top 4 rivals. The coaches and
       players will be smarting. (We need Dommers to be fit, though!)
       #Post#: 95759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: RingwoodQuin
       Date: September 18, 2022, 9:07 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
       >
       > No.
       >
       > Thats utterly reductive. The quins way isn't 'based' on much
       at all, that's the point. Forward dominance and one of the best
       12s in the world helps, just as it would help NY system ever
       played, but that's not the basis for it, at all.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I get that one of the reasons we are pretty unique is the way
       our backs play, especially in open play, but I think everyone
       underestimates how good our pack has been the last few years. If
       smith gets no ball, or ball after a 10 second ruck time with all
       defenders lined up, he cant do anything, and that is where we
       were yesterday 2nd half - with no ball, their defenders all in
       position. Our Kick chase game also fell apart , poss due to
       tiredness as much as anything. So stage 1 of Quins game is quick
       ball.
       #Post#: 95763--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: Bucksquin
       Date: September 18, 2022, 11:47 am
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       --- Quote from: Maggiephilquin link ---
       >
       > Ah, so Eddies involved as well is he ? Probably thinks that
       the Sarries contingent are still rusty from their season in The
       Championship.
       > So, I ask again, where's the stated rationale for the Billy V
       and Marcus decisions ? Please can someone from the decision
       making panel, make it public, so that we're all clear on which
       players we will and will not be watching over the next few
       weeks. You cant run a professional league with such apparent
       arbitrariness.
       >
       > Looked like Eddie wanted to see all the Sarries players
       playing and wanted to have poster-child Farrell on the pitch
       without Smith being there to humiliate him. Simple as that.
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 95770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Team's Up!
   DIR By: sussexquin
       Date: September 19, 2022, 2:46 am
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       Just re-watched the game  and slightly OT, but can anyone
       explain why van Zyl was allowed back on when Davies had to go
       off? From the commentary and ref links I didn't hear any
       reference to HIAs either when van Zyl initially left the field
       or when Davies later departed. Can someone please enlighten me
       or is it another Saracens dispensation?
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