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#Post#: 95609--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: September 16, 2022, 6:52 am
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I think Danny said on the Rugby Pod that he and Marcus were in
the top 5 for most played minutes last season as where most of
there's had longer injuries mid season so played less minutes.
Still stinks though in comparison to someone like Genge
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Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: mighty_quin
Date: September 16, 2022, 6:53 am
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--- Quote from: quins4life link ---
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> No know. It seems all bar our request for Smith to play have
been allowed. Either you let all clubs manage their players’
minutes or you let none. It’s frankly a joke and brings the
league’s integrity into question. Smith, a young lad with no
history of injuries has to take time off and is a back with less
‘serious collision’. But the injury prone players of Farrell,
the Vunipolas, Itoje and George can come back when they want
>
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Is age a factor? Do they take the GPS and collision measurements
into account? I don't know if any of that makes a difference
either way, it seems pretty unclear to me.
I don't know what they look at, so I don't know whether it makes
sense. If anyone else does then that would be helpful to
understand more. Until then... it seems odd at face value, but I
can't really have a definitive opinion.
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Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: Yareet
Date: September 16, 2022, 6:56 am
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--- Quote from: Banstead Quin link ---
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> I think Danny said on the Rugby Pod that he and Marcus were in
the top 5 for most played minutes last season as where most of
there's had longer injuries mid season so played less minutes.
>
> Still stinks though in comparison to someone like Genge
>
--- End Quote ---
The same pod answered the question about Genge when they said he
is unlikely to play much in the Challenge Cup (can't see him
going to Zebre for example).
#Post#: 95612--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: September 16, 2022, 7:12 am
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HTML https://t.co/g4vzgcnBqv
Telegraph article with some details.
Billy starts despite playing more matches and more minutes than
Smith...
Does seem ridiculous and it's yet another contest where we've
been robbed of some tasty matchups for whatever reason. The
premiership is failing us.
#Post#: 95613--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: mighty_quin
Date: September 16, 2022, 7:14 am
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--- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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> The same pod answered the question about Genge when they said
he is unlikely to play much in the Challenge Cup (can't see him
going to Zebre for example).
>
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That's fine, but in context still doesn't make much sense.
Played one of the most attritional games of the year in the Prem
final, as did the Sarries contingent. Genge started all 3 Tests
in the summer in one of the most demanding positions, and has
had the shortest rest out of anyone.
Farrell played 3 full Tests. Billy played 3 full Tests (minus 10
mins for YC). George played in all 3. Mako played in all 3. Maro
was concussed in the 2nd Test.
Smith already had an extra week off, plays in a (probably)
proportionately less physical position, and isn't available this
week.
I'm pretty sure there's no foul play, no bias etc, but it isn't
clear enough how the decisions are made. "Individualised" should
come with a rationale.
#Post#: 95614--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: Archquin
Date: September 16, 2022, 7:20 am
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we're going to get mullered :-0
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Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: Banstead Quin
Date: September 16, 2022, 7:24 am
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--- Quote from: Yareet link ---
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> The same pod answered the question about Genge when they said
he is unlikely to play much in the Challenge Cup (can't see him
going to Zebre for example).
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't think the Bears coaching team have a crystal ball and if
they have a loose head crisis and have to play Genge then the
whole thing was pointless in the first place. If it's all about
the governing bodies showing respect to the players re amount of
minutes then none of them should be playing at the moment as if
they all break down now, that's no good for them the clubs or
England.
I'm not sure Genge's ACL knows if he has a rest coming up, so
won't wait until it gets a rest!
#Post#: 95617--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: Captquin
Date: September 16, 2022, 7:28 am
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I feel this is an utterly disgracefully unfair example of
Sarries' ability to bend the Premierships' arm and rulebook to
an extent which no other club has.
What we lose though in players will be made up for, I'm sure, by
an even more ferocious home atmosphere charged up at this sense
of bitter injustice
COYQ
#Post#: 95618--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: poorfour
Date: September 16, 2022, 7:34 am
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--- Quote from: mighty_quin link ---
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> That's fine, but in context still doesn't make much sense.
>
> Played one of the most attritional games of the year in the
Prem final, as did the Sarries contingent. Genge started all 3
Tests in the summer in one of the most demanding positions, and
has had the shortest rest out of anyone.
>
> Farrell played 3 full Tests. Billy played 3 full Tests (minus
10 mins for YC). George played in all 3. Mako played in all 3.
Maro was concussed in the 2nd Test.
>
> Smith already had an extra week off, plays in a (probably)
proportionately less physical position, and isn't available this
week.
>
> I'm pretty sure there's no foul play, no bias etc, but it
isn't clear enough how the decisions are made. "Individualised"
should come with a rationale.
>
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Wasn't Smith one of the top tacklers on tour? At international
level, teams send their big runners down his channel and he
doesn't shirk from offering himself as a speed bump.
#Post#: 95619--------------------------------------------------
Re: Team's Up!
DIR By: quinalan
Date: September 16, 2022, 7:37 am
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Dream team back row starting together for us. Been wanting to
see that for a while.
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