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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: July 28, 2022, 3:30 am
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--- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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> She's a minor celebrity, yeah. She won a bunch of stuff in
swimming 30+ years ago. She had a notable career at the time,
but has done nothing since and has been living off her
celebrity, such as it is. Being good at a sport a long time ago
isn't enough to sustain a career - not that you'd know it with
her insistence that she's been cancelled by a hate mob... all
over Twitter, major newspapers, TV appearances, etc...
>
> If it wasn't for her relentless campaigning against trans
people in sport, I doubt anyone under the age of 30 would know
who she is in this country.
>
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I believe she was also in Gladiators! But people only remember
Wolf and Jet
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: July 28, 2022, 3:37 am
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--- Quote from: SiB link ---
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> Or watching any swimming coverage by the BBC as she is a
sports commentator , or uses Learn to swim that’s been
translated into numerous languages, why is it anyone has an
opposing view people have to discredit them?
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To be clear, what I'm doing here isn't discrediting her views.
She's perfectly entitled to have them. What I am discrediting is
the ridiculous assertion that she's been somehow damaged by the
trans community. She's been all over TV and the papers trying to
make out that she's been bankrupted by the "fight" against trans
people in sport, claiming that trans activists have cost her her
livelihood because charities don't work to work with her.
Whereas the truth (as per her own words) is she's been living
off her inheritance for some time and work has been drying up
for her for some time, as you'd expect for someone with a very
small niche who becomes less relevant year on year. Becoming
known for being anti-trans is going to close charity doors, I
can't see how that's not expected.
Perhaps before making it a full time job going after trans
people she should've checked to see how well it paid first, I
dunno.
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> Is Brian Moore’s opinion also not valid? As he also doesn’t
agree with trans women in rugby?
>
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Moore's view is a lot more complex and considered than Davies',
to be fair. And he is not a disingenuous obsessive who is making
his very existence about trans people. I don't completely agree
with him - there's a lot of "the science says this" where
actually the science either doesn't, or it's really very dubious
(see this excellent Twitter thread he was linked to:
HTML https://twitter.com/KirstiMiller30/status/1494081618348507140
)
but I don't for a second believe he's trying to do anything
other than come to a fair conclusion without any malice toward
any party involved.
Something that cannot be said for Davies.
#Post#: 93515--------------------------------------------------
Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
Date: July 28, 2022, 3:49 am
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She should have known better, kept her mouth shut.
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: SiB
Date: July 28, 2022, 4:15 am
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--- Quote from: Quinten Poulsen link ---
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> She should have known better, kept her mouth shut.
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That’s an intelligent reply, or as some would say “ Sexist”
reply
But in all seriousness there is the problem it would appear that
only selective opinions are permitted
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: July 28, 2022, 4:25 am
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--- Quote from: SiB link ---
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> That’s an intelligent reply, or as some would say “ Sexist”
reply
>
> But in all seriousness there is the problem it would appear
that only selective opinions are permitted
>
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Not sure how it's sexist.
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: SiB
Date: July 28, 2022, 5:36 am
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--- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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> Not sure how it's sexist.
>
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And why I said “ In all seriousness “
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: JammyGit
Date: July 28, 2022, 5:59 am
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--- Quote from: SiB link ---
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> That’s an intelligent reply, or as some would say “ Sexist”
reply
>
> But in all seriousness there is the problem it would appear
that only selective opinions are permitted
>
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Permitted by whom? No-one's stopped Davies making the trans
issue her raise d'etre. She's been all over social media, TV,
and newspapers. Who isn't permitting her those opinions?
QP - I realise you're being facetious, but I do genuinely have a
problem with the obsessives. For all the uproar about "trans
activists", none of the trans people I know spend as much time
banging on about trans stuff as much as people like Davies.
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: Brown Bottle
Date: July 28, 2022, 6:14 am
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--- Quote from: SiB link ---
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> And why I said “ In all seriousness “
>
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Fair enough. Missed the nuance. 🙂
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: MaidstoneQuin
Date: July 28, 2022, 6:30 am
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--- Quote from: T-Bone link ---
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> I believe she was also in Gladiators! But people only remember
Wolf and Jet
>
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I'm doing a 10km in Margate next month where Hunter is making an
appearance. He was there last year and is still in very good
nick for his age
However, the same cannot be said for Shadow. He is currently in
prison, and also turned into a massive class A
druggie/burglar/general scumbag.
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Re: RFU Recommend Ban on TG Women
DIR By: T-Bone
Date: July 28, 2022, 6:38 am
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--- Quote from: MaidstoneQuin link ---
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> I'm doing a 10km in Margate next month where Hunter is making
an appearance. He was there last year and is still in very good
nick for his age
> However, the same cannot be said for Shadow. He is currently
in prison, and also turned into a massive class A
druggie/burglar/general scumbag.
>
--- End Quote ---
I believe that Shadow's lowest ebb might have been working as a
podium dancer at Club Eden in High Wycombe many moons ago
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