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       #Post#: 7656--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: deadlyfrom5yardsout
       Date: October 2, 2018, 4:13 am
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       I believe supporting the Ladies game is tactically a shrewd
       move. We are not alone in doing this so it would seem that it is
       worth doing. It is for the greater good of the game of Rugby in
       my view.
       As for supporting the Academy, I guess I would always prefer
       supporters cash to be used for Rugby purposes rather than random
       outside charitable works tbh.
       #Post#: 7658--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: A222Quin
       Date: October 2, 2018, 4:24 am
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       --- Quote from: AdrianB link ---
       >
       > [quote author=A222Quin link=topic=503.msg7645#msg7645
       date=1538470452]
       > The sooner rugby clubs and crucially the players get their
       heads out of the clouds about the finances the better.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Please explain?
       [/quote]
       The ever growing salary cap, marquee players, seas of red ink
       across premiership rugby clubs financial results - that this
       point is probably a high water mark for the size of TV deal the
       clubs can hope to achieve. The game as it stands is resting
       mostly on the willingness of rich club owners willing to
       underwrite the ongoing losses.
       Sorry we're veering OT here a bit! Not too impressed by how the
       club have gone about this. Bit amateur hour. Happy to support
       the academy and the ladies but be upfront about it.
       #Post#: 7662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: Blucherquin
       Date: October 2, 2018, 4:52 am
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       --- Quote from: marlowish link ---
       >
       > I am all for money going to the academy rather than the
       foundation.  I could not care less about the women's team.  I am
       all for anyone who plays sport at any level and fair play to
       them for getting off their backside and doing something
       worthwhile. I have watched a couple of games and I am just not
       interested.  If it is taking money from the club which lost over
       6m last year and has a men's squad which is inadequate I would
       far rather the money spent on the women';s team was used to pay
       for better players for the men;'s team.
       >
       > I rember last season when we were rubbish getting an e mail
       asking me to renew my ST and goingn on about how wqell the
       ladies team was doing.  That does nothing for me whatsoever.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Beyond your laughable trolling, how would giving the money to
       the men’s team work old son?
       I’m sure there’s a thing called a salary cap.
       Or can we all chip in to buy a Kiwi 7?
       #Post#: 7666--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: Only Joe Quin
       Date: October 2, 2018, 5:58 am
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       The nature of professional sport is that the business side
       strives to hoover up every last scrap of cash it can in the hope
       that this will give them some short lived competitive advantage.
       In very short order this money goes out to the playing side,
       mainly in the form of wages to the very top players (and to a
       lesser extent, top coaches). Then all the competition has to do
       the same in order to keep up. And so everyone is back to where
       they were before except that the players wages are higher. And
       so the ratchet keeps ratcheting up....
       The only way to stop this is to have a very tight unified
       administrative structure which is able to put "the good of the
       game" (whatever that is) above individual competitiveness. Sadly
       this seems impossible to achieve in rugby, in both the
       international and the domestic game. Personally I think this is
       because there are too many ex-props involved, who only know one
       way to do anything....head down and push as hard as you can
       [emoji1]
       #Post#: 7680--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: Nico Wilson
       Date: October 2, 2018, 9:13 am
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       My immediate thought with the Foundation pack when I received it
       was: how much is this costing?
       #Post#: 7690--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: InsertQuinsPunHere
       Date: October 2, 2018, 12:41 pm
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       What Foundation pack? What £250?
       Or are us peons in the Jester seats deemed too cash strapped to
       be worth approaching?! ;-)
       Or, more likely, I skim read and binned whatever this is
       everyone is talking about.
       #Post#: 7691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: Quinten Poulsen
       Date: October 2, 2018, 1:20 pm
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       I got something from the club and binned it without reading it.
       I presume that's what people are talking about.
       #Post#: 7697--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: RodneyRegis
       Date: October 3, 2018, 2:23 am
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       They are trying to dress up the fact that when you resell your
       ticket which you already paid for, they are only giving you 50%
       back and keeping the other 50% to boost profits. Saying they
       will put the money back into the academy and women's teams just
       means they won't spend other funds on them. It's like saying
       bring back your TV and we'll give you a 50% refund. You wouldn't
       accept it anywhere else. It's a mickey take indeed.
       #Post#: 7699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: raedarius
       Date: October 3, 2018, 3:13 am
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       --- Quote from: InsertQuinsPunHere link ---
       >
       > What Foundation pack? What £250?
       >
       > Or are us peons in the Jester seats deemed too cash strapped
       to be worth approaching?! ;-)
       >
       > Or, more likely, I skim read and binned whatever this is
       everyone is talking about.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Jesters got it too.
       #Post#: 7700--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticket resale cash funding the club - total mickey take
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: October 3, 2018, 3:32 am
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       --- Quote from: RodneyRegis link ---
       >
       > They are trying to dress up the fact that when you resell your
       ticket which you already paid for, they are only giving you 50%
       back and keeping the other 50% to boost profits. Saying they
       will put the money back into the academy and women's teams just
       means they won't spend other funds on them. It's like saying
       bring back your TV and we'll give you a 50% refund. You wouldn't
       accept it anywhere else. It's a mickey take indeed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The club isn't obliged to offer the facility and members don't
       have to use it.
       Members won't have paid full match day price for each game so
       50% back pretty much covers what you pay.
       You comparison to returning a tv is ridiculous.
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