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       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: D-Quins
       Date: June 18, 2022, 3:27 pm
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       Earl was smug last year in the Semi-final when he scored and his
       normal unpleasant self around the pitch.  His face was nice
       picture at the end of extra time however.
       He is a good player but there are other as good if not better
       around the premiership who are as competitive on the pitch but
       more sportsman like in how they do it.  Ludlum and Ludlow spring
       to mind both aggressive and brilliant players.    Nice to know
       they will keep him out of the England  team.
       #Post#: 92103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: June 18, 2022, 3:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: Account_109 link ---
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       > Unfortunately it's gone past criticising players for their
       actions, and become criticism based on their appearance. It's
       the kind of behaviour that I'd have hoped that this board was
       better than.
       >
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       Really? I've not noticed anything about his appearance.
       Also. I think 4 days is a rather short time to come to an
       opinion.
       I suspect you've been here before.
       #Post#: 92105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: Audi Quintro
       Date: June 18, 2022, 3:38 pm
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       --- Quote from: Account_109 link ---
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       > Unfortunately it's gone past criticising players for their
       actions, and become criticism based on their appearance. It's
       the kind of behaviour that I'd have hoped that this board was
       better than.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You’re a troll
       #Post#: 92106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: June 18, 2022, 4:19 pm
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       Well done Leicester, well won and deserved.
       A great result for rugby and proof you can't buy the title, not
       saying Saracens are in breach of the cap this year, but lots of
       existing players are still benefiting from the 3 years of salary
       cap breaches through property, savings and investments.
       Justice is served by a tiger 🐯🐯🐯
       If it wasn't to be Quins in pleased for Leicester as every
       Leicester fans I've met has been sound.
       Looking forward to next season.
       #Post#: 92108--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: June 18, 2022, 4:23 pm
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       Ok, I realise this is probably a bit miserable but you have no
       idea whether Quins or Tigers actually gamed it a bit. 😁
       #Post#: 92110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: Account_109
       Date: June 18, 2022, 4:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
       >
       > Really? I've not noticed anything about his appearance.
       >
       > Also. I think 4 days is a rather short time to come to an
       opinion.
       >
       > I suspect you've been here before.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not saying you specifically said anything about his
       appearance, but other posters definitely did. You're right, I
       have been here before - I've lurked the board for several years
       before finally deciding to make an account after the Sarries
       game.
       #Post#: 92111--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: Wirralquin
       Date: June 19, 2022, 12:29 am
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       Very poor game , very poor reffing from Barnes again 2 clear cut
       red cards under current laws.
       #Post#: 92113--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: Domestos
       Date: June 19, 2022, 12:51 am
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       --- Quote from: Wirralquin link ---
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       > Very poor game , very poor reffing from Barnes again 2 clear
       cut red cards under current laws.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I really don't understand why; with all your knowledge and
       expertise, the Premiership don't get you to referee the next
       final, rather than using someone like Barnesy.
       I mean he has got no experience and knows less than you!
       Do they use him because he lives locally and must be cheaper?
       #Post#: 92114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: Quinky
       Date: June 19, 2022, 1:14 am
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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       > I have to say, Ben Earl winds me up no end. He just looks so
       smug all the time. It's probably not justified, but I have a
       really visceral reaction to him that I don't have to other
       players.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I thought it was just me that found him annoying. It's just the
       OTT goading celebration of every penalty, scrum win, turnover
       etc. Usually in the face of the oppo. Definitely aimed to wind
       up IMO.
       I expect it starts when they win the coin toss for kick off.
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       Re: Premiership Final
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 19, 2022, 5:01 am
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       --- Quote from: Domestos link ---
       >
       > I really don't understand why; with all your knowledge and
       expertise, the Premiership don't get you to referee the next
       final, rather than using someone like Barnesy.
       >
       > I mean he has got no experience and knows less than you!
       >
       > Do they use him because he lives locally and must be cheaper?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       He's not wrong, though. There's been a sudden shift in how these
       things are ruled, and the frankly absurd situation we now have
       where if the ball carrier "wins" the collision then it's
       essentially regarded as lower danger. So we had Billy getting
       away with what was a red card every time for the last few
       seasons against us, Davies getting away with the same against
       Montoya (who was clearly hit hard and got decked by it), and
       Scott getting away with the same on Billy who was taken out of
       the game by it.
       So the possible explanations are a deliberate change that no one
       has bothered to let anyone know about (unlikely given Ugo's
       response), simple mistakes by referees, or there's been a
       subconscious shift because of the "big game" nature of the semi
       finals and final.
       These aren't incredibly complicated decisions - there's a clear
       framework and a lot of precedent to refer to. You don't need to
       be a referee to judge them.
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