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       Re: Clubs will lose England players for half the season
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: June 3, 2022, 6:01 pm
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       --- Quote from: poorfour link ---
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       > The relevance for me is that with some investment in
       promotion, women's rugby is a potential way to square the circle
       of needing to reduce game time for the (male) players while
       having enough games overall to support clubs' revenues.
       >
       > Clubs need to stage games to earn money, but it's increasingly
       clear that players need more time off to recover properly and
       reduce the risk of long term health problems. The usual options
       proposed are that we could move to a Pro14 style model where top
       players only play in some games, or we could have fewer games in
       the season while holding or raising ticket prices to compensate.
       >
       > But there's also the option of having fewer men's games but
       the same or more games overall by using women's games to take up
       the gaps in the schedule. That would need investment to ensure
       that there's a large enough pool of female pro players to
       support it, that the games are high enough quality and that the
       fanbase is there.
       >
       > That fanbase inevitably won't overlap completely with the
       fanbase for the men's game - there are some people who just
       aren't interested - but there's also evidence that there's a
       decent base out there given the response to the W6N and some of
       the higher profile club matches.
       >
       > I could imagine a time when a Quins season ticket included,
       say, 12 men's games rather than the 16 today but also included
       12 women's games staged to a similar level at the Stoop on weeks
       when the men weren't playing there. The attendance would
       probably be lower initially, but if it could be built up to a
       steady 8k plus it would probably be sustainable and value adding
       to the club as a whole.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Just watched Sarries v Exeter women's final. You will struggle
       to monetize that. Men's county div 2?
       What did surprise me was they were all about the same size and
       shape. There must be some tall women somewhere or are all female
       rugby players tall?
       #Post#: 91003--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clubs will lose England players for half the season
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 3, 2022, 6:23 pm
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       Might just be an oddity of that particular game. There's plenty
       of variation in size and shape in the Quins squad and at
       intentional level.
       #Post#: 91004--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clubs will lose England players for half the season
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: June 3, 2022, 6:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Might just be an oddity of that particular game. There's
       plenty of variation in size and shape in the Quins squad and at
       intentional level.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Absolutely, I would have thought. They just looked like a load
       of tubby girls to be honest.
       #Post#: 91005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clubs will lose England players for half the season
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: June 3, 2022, 7:07 pm
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       --- Quote from: JammyGit link ---
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       > Might just be an oddity of that particular game. There's
       plenty of variation in size and shape in the Quins squad and at
       intentional level.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They all had intentional expressions.
       #Post#: 91007--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clubs will lose England players for half the season
   DIR By: Bucksquin
       Date: June 4, 2022, 2:45 am
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       --- Quote from: Mayor West link ---
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       > The womens Premiership has only been going for a few years and
       is quickly evening out the spread of talent amongst the teams.
       This brings  a more competitive league and as has been
       mentioned, some very good attendances. The popularity of the
       International team has seen games sell out this year. It’s in
       its infancy at the moment but growing at a very promising rate.
       > If we could get half the attendance of a  mens game for the
       women then I would say it was successful and self sufficient. I
       think it could work as poorfour says, with the right price
       tickets and good promotion. The BBC has done its bit so far.
       >
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       The BBC has only done its bit because it's cheap television for
       them. "BBC Sport" is a laughing stock. They never show anything
       that requires financial investment. Probably costs them even
       less than the world tiddlywinks finals.
       #Post#: 91010--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clubs will lose England players for half the season
   DIR By: JammyGit
       Date: June 4, 2022, 4:20 am
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       --- Quote from: Brown Bottle link ---
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       > They all had intentional expressions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Mobile posting has its difficulties
       #Post#: 91014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clubs will lose England players for half the season
   DIR By: Brown Bottle
       Date: June 4, 2022, 5:10 am
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       --- Quote from: Bucksquin link ---
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       > The BBC has only done its bit because it's cheap television
       for them. "BBC Sport" is a laughing stock. They never show
       anything that requires financial investment...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'm not sure if they realistically can bid for sport that isn't
       protected for Terrestrial TV. Or how popular it would be with
       the license payers.
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