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       OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: April 28, 2022, 11:26 am
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       Spain have been stripped of their 2023 Rugby World Cup place
       after World Rugby deemed they used an ineligible player during
       qualification.
       The side confirmed a World Cup spot for the first time in 24
       years in March but will now be replaced in Pool B by Romania.
       It is the second successive World Cup at which Spain have lost
       their place, for the same offence.
       They still have 14 days in which to appeal the decision.
       A 10-point penalty applied to Spain in the European
       qualification tournament means Portugal are now also in a
       position to reach the World Cup.
       While Romania advance automatically in place of Spain, Portugal
       can now secure their place through a final qualification
       tournament in November.
       Romania last played at the World Cup in 2015, while Portugal's
       only appearance at the tournament came in 2007.
       Spain were given a £25,000 fine and will now also have to pay a
       £50,000 suspended fine from a previous eligibility breach made
       in qualifying for the 2019 World Cup.
       The other sides in Pool B are Scotland, Ireland and South
       Africa, as well as an unconfirmed Asia-Pacific qualifier.
       #Post#: 89473--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: April 28, 2022, 3:51 pm
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       Sad for them but pretty stupid to get thrown out for the same
       thing twice
       #Post#: 89474--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: SwindonQuin
       Date: April 28, 2022, 4:07 pm
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       Anyone one else think it's harsh kicking them out for an
       ineligible player, in comparison Russia have been kicked out for
       war crimes and genocide, ineligible player Vs War crimes = same
       punishment..... Doesn't sit right with me......
       #Post#: 89475--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: Camquin
       Date: April 28, 2022, 4:27 pm
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       They were not kicked out, merely docked points that dropped them
       down the table.
       It would be he same as Quins playing a player that was not
       registered and being docked points and missing out on the
       play-offs.
       #Post#: 89487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: oakhaven
       Date: April 29, 2022, 3:48 am
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       --- Quote from: SwindonQuin link ---
       >
       > Anyone one else think it's harsh kicking them out for an
       ineligible player, in comparison Russia have been kicked out for
       war crimes and genocide, ineligible player Vs War crimes = same
       punishment..... Doesn't sit right with me......
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What would you have World Rugby do to the Russian team, then?
       The punishment here is pretty standard for fielding an ineligble
       player, e.g. London Welsh in 2013.
       #Post#: 89491--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: Bolly-Quin
       Date: April 29, 2022, 5:45 am
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       --- Quote from: oakhaven link ---
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       > What would you have World Rugby do to the Russian team, then?
       --- End Quote ---
       Force them to continually listen (without ear plugs/defenders)
       to the "Stand up for the Saracens" chant for as long as they
       occupy Ukraine.
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       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: T-Bone
       Date: April 29, 2022, 5:53 am
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       I understand that the reason they fielded an ineligible player
       is because the player forged documents. Not sure if that's
       right, but that's what I read somewhere earlier. I think World
       Rugby approved his eligibility but then it came to light that
       he'd forged ID and/or residency documents.
       #Post#: 89495--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: MadMax
       Date: April 29, 2022, 6:18 am
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       --- Quote from: Bolly-Quin link ---
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       > Force them to continually listen (without ear plugs/defenders)
       to the "Stand up for the Saracens" chant for as long as they
       occupy Ukraine.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Have Paul Gustard coach them?
       #Post#: 89505--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: Rocker
       Date: April 29, 2022, 8:22 am
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       It is rather unfortunate. Particularly as they missed out last
       time due to some shenanigans from Romania I think it was.
       #Post#: 89509--------------------------------------------------
       Re: OT Spain kicked out of RWC 2023
   DIR By: Fearless Fred
       Date: April 29, 2022, 8:33 am
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       From the excellent Rugby and the Law twitter account, it appears
       that the Spanish federation are sayin that the player's club
       falsified his entry visa date in a photocopy of his passport &
       they're in the midst of a disciplinary action against them over
       the matter. There's also this report from the press conference
       "Spanish Rugby Federation President Alfonso Feijoo has revealed
       that Gavin van den Berg remained in South Africa longer than he
       should have because his father had cancer and his only child
       lived outside of Spain and he had to look after the child."
       Basically Spanish Rugby accepted what his club, Alcobendas,
       submitted via a photocopy of the passport, but World Rugby are
       saying that Spanish Rugby should have checked the original.
       Spain are lodging an appeal.
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